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 Posted: Sun Oct 28th, 2007 11:26 am
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Joe Kelley

 

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What follows is a 'personal' reply to a 'moderator' who elected me as a moderator and then after my defense against personal attacks the moderator takes sides with the attacker and revokes my 'status'.

The reply could not be sent as the 'user does not exist' anymore. The forum moderator censored exposure of his apology for 'personal attacks' as a means of what, exactly, entertainment?

You go beyond frank and honest in a manner that is aggressive.

 

Gary,

 

That quote above is your opinion based upon what? When you fail to address the first personal aggressive attack upon me when I point it out and then when I defend against personal attacks you, according to you (conveniently), you memory fails, you rewrite history starting at the moment you choose, and you take the side of the original person, or persons, who originally become aggressive toward me personally, and you single me out to attack me personally in a deceptive manner.

 

Just because your brand of personal attack is polite does not change the nature of the exchange. My viewpoint remains on topic until such time as someone moves the subject matter away from the topic and moves the subject matter toward me personally.

 

If you don’t want me as a moderator, and I am certain that I gave you a clear warning concerning my inability to follow orders, tow the line, read the script, and be ‘one of the boys’, if not in those words, exactly, I did express to you a concern of mine that I would not be a good moderator and now, as if out of the blue, as if today, right now, is the first day in reality you come up with a need to remove my ‘authority’.

 

Three paragraphs above can be viewed as an aggressive, honest, and frank (what do you think frank means?) manner. Those three paragraphs are merely words. When a ‘fellow’ forum member begins to attack the person of another forum member the inevitable threats are inevitable unless the original evil intent is not thrown out into the light of day for anyone with a clear mind to see.

 

One of ‘your’ forum members threatened me and you attack me.

 

If you can’t see this, then, you can’t. The reason why you can’t see this remains a mystery. Any honest and frank person could figure it out.

 

If you believe someone does not agree with you then you decide they are attacking you and you go into one of your dissecting, sentence at a time rants where you slam people while accusing them of attacking you and do so without clearly defined logic.

 

If my neighbor in any direction uses the words used by one forum member on your forum I will definitely respond with a defense. Make no mistake about this – please. Anyone threatening me will meet a measures response of defense. I do not play the part of the victim. If you cannot understand this fact, then, you fail to understand the situation occurring on your forum.

 

“you are stepping on dangerous ground’ is a threat.

 

I saw that coming the very first time that forum member went for me personally. How much time has elapsed since the very first aggressive attack upon me personally and the very thinly veiled personal THREAT above?

 

We are not discussing the intricacies of weaving baskets in Mesopotamian ancient history. The fear mongering MEME has infected our social order and it manifests itself in on-line in modern communication. If you do not know this, then, it is past time for you to figure it out.

 

Attacking me for defending against personal threats upon me personally is your own error. You can continue to blame me for your error; as you see fit. What is your pay off with this continued attack of me personally?

 

If you actually do have a contention concerning something I have written, then, spare me your editorial interpretations and use the forum quote feature. Do you know what the forum has a quote feature?

 

In five decades of life you are the first to claim I am prejudiced toward them in a discussion such as this forum promotes.

 

And it is past time someone stood up to your pretentious authority. If you attack someone personally for defending against personal threats, then, what does that make you while we both look at each other’s images in the mirror? What exactly (use the quote feature luke) do you find to be worthy of your time and effort communicating with me – CONCERNING what I wrote and not concerning what you like about me and my person as you imagine me to be; as a person.

 

Never have I had someone as closed-minded as you while claiming you want frank and honest.  

 

See how this works? You quote something that expresses your ‘opinion’ concerning how my character (close-minded) exists IN YOUR MIND and you project that image you see IN YOUR MIND unto me personally while I quote your words (no matter who wrote the words) and I comment on THOSE WORDS and I leave your personal characteristics completely out of the exchange CONCERNING those words that happen to originate from somewhere UNKNOWN to me.

 

I do not know if your mind is closed. I do know that the last quote was addressed to me – personally. I do not have a closed mind. You are mistaken. What, exactly, has led you to create such a false image of me – personally?

 

You feel my comments to you are a riot, stop and consider that your approach with people may well be why you are kicked off so many boards. 

 

I can’t know why, exactly, because the exchange of information stops and is stopped by someone other than me. In most cases (and some of these cases the exchange remains published on the forums where these cases occur) the information I publish is unwelcome and the people ‘in charge’ attack me personally. When I respond in defense of personal attacks the people ‘in charge’ blame me for aggressive closed-minded personally traits and they ‘offer’ sound advice for me to fix my wrong, bad, and unwelcome personality characteristics. That is what you are doing now. You are suggesting that I follow your script as if my own script is somehow inferior. You claim that all these ‘problems’ are my fault alone and “if only” “I” would change my errant ways the ‘problem’ would evaporate.

 

Why bother? Why not simply type out exactly what you want me to say and how you want me to say it (as if I could ‘say’ anything with type) and all the problems will evaporate and I can blend in just like everyone else in peace and harmony.

 

You may imagine all kinds of personally traits concerning me and how my life exists. That is an imaginary image based upon text read by you that I wrote. If this forum censors me, on your orders, or on the orders of your superiors (if you imagine having any), then, what will the common denominator be in relation to all the other forums I’ve been exiled from?

 
  1. My closed-minded personal characteristics
  2. The subject matter
 

One choice above is an imagined personal characteristic of me that is false. The other choice is a matter of fact.

 

I will monitor your comments on the board and if you continue to be attacking toward other members, if you continue to be unable to enter a frank and honest discussion without turning it into some attack session, or if I lose any other members due to your approach I will remove you.

 

Here is the thing Mr. Badass moderator dude. All you have to do is ask me to leave this forum once. Your imagined characteristic of me is false. GET THAT STRAIGHT PLEASE.

 

All you have to do is ask me to stop posting on this forum ONE TIME.

 

I will drop this forum of apology for torture and mass murder faster than you can say Please leave.

 

If that is what you want, to be kicked off, why not save us both the headache and simply let me know you wish to be removed as a member.  

 

You may imagine your superior moral position on this and that is fine by me. I’ve presented my viewpoint in a frank and honest manner. The personal attacks, including the threat to me personally, are matters of public record until such time as you edit them out – anyone can view what has transpired here and gain the insight necessary to see the facts as they exist.

 

For you to suggest that “I” want to disconnect myself from the people on this forum is an apology for your future censorship of me. You fabricate your rationalization for getting rid of an unwelcome flow of unpleasant information. What exactly is it that you find unwelcome and unpleasant?

 

Did you really twist around my defense against personal attacks (and a threat) to be singularly accountable to me alone? Do you really apologize for people who torture and mass murder? Is that really your calling in life?

 

 

 

I am going to pick a few of my posts on that board in order to save them before more censorship may occur on that board.