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I would like to point out that Plato was an early capitalist who probably did this:
retire to their estates and congratulate themselves for a lifetime of "public service."
And Plato probably said something like this:
Only in a society where all services are provided through voluntary association, where consumers hold ultimate sovereignty by providing the most efficient producers of necessary and luxury goods with profits can rule of law, individual liberty, and property rights be upheld. Such a society is not in a state of anarchy; authority is simply decentralized to the lowest possible and most just level — the business, the community, the family.
And my point is that "Profit" should be defined before moving on; however that debate does not occur now or ever because the apposing viewpoint is conveniently silenced in each person's mind who had pre-determined that 'there is no profit" in it.
A person like Zeno, for example, may find reason to express the opposing viewpoint but when such discussion occurs the evidence is somehow conveniently missing in the historical record or, worse, the ideas resulting from such discussions are marginalized, falsified, and set upon by every possible political strategy so as to make the idea so utterly complex as to be useless: that includes the idea known as negotiated agreement, science applied to society, and Law - in addition to ideas concerning economy.
Someone like me would have a very keen interest in, as the proverbial fly on the wall, in discussion between the two viewpoints held by one such as Zeno and the other attributable to Plato.
My interest in these discussions aimed at arriving at a more educated common interest has driven me to find such an "argument" and that example is here:
http://praxeology.net/HJ-HG-SPA-LMD.htm
One might not be able to keep up. Too bad. Common concepts deteriorate for a reason. People end up being too busy to learn anything beyond the need to fight over the last scrap of value in a society based upon the manipulation of scarcity as a direct result of failed, false, and incredibly irresponsible economic 'theories' propagandized by ignorant (ignorant of basic principles making up what is a moral conscience) 'professors' of knowledge.
I'm just getting started and my time is up. The pursuit of happiness is calling.
Last edited on Thu May 18th, 2006 02:33 pm by Joe Kelley