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Mike from The Mathematically Perfected Economy site turns out to be a fucking troll of the intellectually dishonest kind.
Here is how that works:
1. Create an opposition
2. Construct the oppositions viewpoint
3. Don't listen to anyone
4. Blame everyone with your won created viewpoint
5. Claim to be superior to everyone because everyone (according to you) has the veiwpoint created by you
6. Repeat
If anyone is following this (and that may include me when I return to this exchange in the future) then they can note how my question remains to answered from the representative from The Mathematically Perfected Economy.
What is the form of the currency? The fucking asshole eludes to something he calls a "note".
The 'note' in our modernized economy will probably be a digital 'note' and therefore the term 'note' is outdated.
A 'note' is a old school form of currency such as a 'dollar'.
A 'dollar' is a 'note' like a gold coin is a form of 'currency'.
Has anyone seen those commercials on T.V. these days where the economy is humming along and people are tapping their credit cards onto credit card reading hardware and the whole 'system' is thrown into chaos when someone pulls out a 'dollar'?
The Mathematically Perfected Economy is a 'formula' that is beyond question a scientifically factual and provable future reality to strive toward and such a formula can eliminate the frauds used by criminals to over power innocent people.
That is the BYPRODUCT of using a Mathematically Perfected Economy FORMULA.
The goal is prosperity, not utopia, merely prosperity and the kind of prosperity that is irrefutably possible once crimnals have their currency frauds removed from the economies of free traders - true free traders - not fraudulent free traders.
Anyway what follows is the exchange by e-mail between me and an ASSHOLE.
You can be your own judge. I care more than to waste time and energy (currency) dealing with ASSHOLES who want nothing more than ARGUMENT for the sake of argument.
Mike,
I have my own forum. I will respond to your ARGUMENT on my forum.
Have a nice day and FUCK OFF ASSHOLE.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: mike montagne [mailto:mike.montagne@advanceis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:21 PM
To: Joe Kelley
Subject: Re: Mathematically Perfected Economy
"Having danced in circles so many times before, I will try to cut to the quick here. "
I can cut this off now. If you insist upon blaming me for your past experiences, then, why bother participating when you have already discussed this with me? Why not simply moderate me out of this discussion and avoid wasting anymore time and energy - currently. You have the power. Why continue the circle jerk?
Your expansive regurgitation of my least important concern, from me, NOT ANYONE ELSE BUT ME, and your ignoring the previous other concerns gives me even more cause to ask of you, please, link me to these mysterious Energy Currency people who you have soundly defeating with your superior whatever.
Moving back to the two prime focal points that you ignored up to your quote above (I have yet to rest the rest of your response):
What is the form of currency used in any Mathematically Perfected Economy?
Anyone with the most basic skills of "economics" knows that the form of any currency which is a debt is a "note." This is blatantly obvious from any of the material. Why the question then?
Does the form of currency accurately transfer wealth from one individual to another individual?
Obviously too it transfers exactly the agreed value of the property/debt, and only that exact value. Not only so, it transfers exactly that value at exactly the rate of consumption/depreciation of the indebted asset.
Does the form of currency accurately avoid transferring wealth to unwanted criminals?
This is a vicious, redundant question as well. If only the producer of the wealth gets the principal debt (currency), and the regulating agency only gets the negligible costs of automated certification of credit worthiness and automated account management (payment), where in the equation is there even a place for unwanted criminals to take anything?
I can leave the rest of the ARGUMENT to those who like to argue.
Speaking for yourself then I presume.
If you prefer to ignore my questions, then, by all means do so and transfer that expressed goal to me accurately so as to avoid wasting anymore of our time - PLEASE.
Your questions were already answered, and your tantrum accomplishes nothing.
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If you have something to say Joe, you best get it out. Nobody has blamed you for past experiences, but if you give your post an honest assessment, I think you'll wonder yourself whatever you meant to present to anyone by it. Maybe you'd like to answer *my* questions; and maybe then you'd like to make it clear what you meant to contribute by all that. Otherwise, your rude counter assertions are not well taken.
As to your claim I have not already answered to your questions, you could note easily, with the least credible study, that my answer you already have allows the debtor and producer to agree on the value of the debt, and is the only schedule of payment which pays *that* debt only at a rate which eliminates inflation, deflation, or multiplication of debt.
If you would like to argue that intelligently and politely, I'll be glad to permit your post -- and respond to it.
If on the other hand you think a serious forum with the obvious purposes of this is the place for your remarks, you best found one yourself. As for your claim I've wasted *your* time, I have half a dozen emails -- including this intended post and your initial post -- to measure that by.
Note:
Mike's ARGUMENT is published on my site. My transferes of accurate data to Mike are censored off his forum by him.
I'm the guy who resorts to calling Mike a Fucking ASSHOLE.
I do so because Mike is a FUCKING ASSHOLE.
That is called accurate transfers of useful information to me.
I'm not the one operating the CENSOR on either end.
I am the one ending the exchange on my end; due to an obviouis lack of any value comming from the FUCKING ASSHOLE.
The People for The Mathematically Perfected Economy web site, on the other hand, is a very valuable source of accurate information.
Read it.
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/index.html
If it takes a FUCKING ASSHOLE to communcate the message at that site, then, that is what it takes. I'll work the Energy Currency angle of view and if anyone recognizes me as being a FUCKING ASSHOLE, then, please speak up. I will try to adjust my message to eliminate that perception.
Thanks for reading my site.