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Here is my first submission to the "Internet" as I independently try to supply the people who use the internet with Independent Presidential Debat Coverage.
My next stop is Digg. I can Digg this story. I can also post this web page on Anarchism.net and Asia Times. I also have my own web page that has been around awhile so it is in the Networked history (Search Engines).
This tactic works. Try a Google Search for the following:
Independent Online Presidential Poll:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=1&q=independent+online+presidential+poll&spell=1
Personalized Results 1 - 10 of about 1,170,000 for independent online presidential poll.
What the above shows, on my computer, are my web pages; on the top of the list.
Try typing in the following words:
No more legal criminals
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=no+more+legal+criminals
Results 1 - 10 of about 30,300,000 for no more legal criminals
Again - my web page is on the top. Look at the numbers = Thirty Million.
To get things started please check here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/us/politics/03demsdebate_transcript.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&bl&ei=5087%0A&en=9793b5f3376eec42&ex=1181102400&oref=slogin
If all a person does is wait around to be told who to vote for and when, then, that person will miss the following:
MR. BLITZER: Congressman Kucinich, you voted against the Patriot Act when it was first introduced; you've since voted against it. But some would say yesterday's plot that was described by the FBI underscores the need for precisely that kind of tough measure to deal with potential terrorists out there.
The 'wolf' in sheeps clothing is asking what is called a 'loaded question'.
Kucinich responds:
REP. KUCINICH: Benjamin Franklin once said that those who would give up their essential liberties to achieve a sense of security deserve neither.
The Patriot Act has undermined civil rights in this country, and as the president of the United States, one of my first acts in office would be to move forward to have the Justice Department overturn the Patriot Act as unconstitutional. We have to remember that 9/11 led us down a cul-de-sac. Americans need to reconnect with our deeper sense of self here, Wolf. We have to remember that, you know, the courage that it took to form this country is still within us, and I want to have what I call the 9-10 Forum to recreate -- to help us reconnect with a deeper sense of who we are as Americans.
Kucinich is, like Ron Paul, speaking a different language. Note the words used:
"liberties"
"unconstitutional"
"courage"
"within us"
"deeper sense of who we are"
Kucinich is the true 'liberal' or 'socialist' who speaks in terms of individuals being a part of something greater - not to be confused with 'collective'.
Kucinich also recognizes something called "Rule of Law". If the "Law of the Land" is the constitution, then, "Rule of Law" exists.
I think the constitution is a recipe for slavery; however - it is certainly far better than no "Rule of Law" while legal criminals remain very, very, accomplished in their task to enslave mankind.
This ends this post on the current Debate.
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I updated my old Web page here:
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0l0yx/
A link to this web page was added with these words:
Independent Presidential Debate Coverage.
Now I can check to see if my efforts show up on Google (only two pages have been made so far and it has taken about 15 mnutes or so):
Google for Independent Presidential Debate Coverage:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+presidential+debate+coverage
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,050,000 for Independent presidential debate coverage.
From my search at this time 8:40 AM (my clock is off by a few minutes) Pacific U.S. Tuesday June 5, 2007 the following is the top story for Independent prsidential debate coverage:
http://independentskeptic.blogspot.com/2007/06/democrats-were-in-new-hampshire-tonight.html
Monday, June 4, 2007
More Debate Coverage
The Democrats were in New Hampshire tonight for their latest debate. CNN's coverage was loaded with second-rate commentary.
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http://forum.atimes.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10392
If you have yet to find the above forum, then, you now have found it.
It is right there. Dive in.
If you have been carefully following the Debates for President, then, you have heard Ron Paul describe how the Chinese can bring this country to its knees.
That is no joke. You might start questioning any references to the Chinese as being an Evil Empire. Anyone suggesting that falsehood should be asked to prove it.
You will get more falsehood. How much do you appreciate being lied to?
How much will it cost you to believe in lies?
Don't worry too much; you will find out before the end.
Next is the Google search after my Asia Times forum post:
Independent Presidential Debate Coverage
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+presidential+debate+coverage
No change yet. Goolge takes time to update.
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http://www.anarchism.net/forum/board_entry.php?id=14540&category=0
There is Anarchism.net
Ask anyone:
Do you want the power to defend against ciminals?
If the answer is yes, then, you have found an anarchist. I can explain on that forum linked above. This forum, and this topic, is specific to a particular event.
Independent Presidential Debate Coverage
Google again:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+presidential+debate+coverage
No change. I'll check back later.
Have a wonderful day! Don't make someone else pay for it. Don't be afraid to speak the truth loud and clear. Don't take my word for it.
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MR. BLITZER: Hold on one second. We're going to get back to this. I want to let Senator Gravel, he hasn't had a chance to speak yet.
Senator Gravel, I know you've been outspoken on all of these issues. Where very briefly do you disagree with these other Democratic candidates?
MR. GRAVEL: Totally. Totally. It's just that simple. Four of these people here will say that it's George Bush's war. It was facilitated by the Democrats. They brought the resolution up, one of them authored, co-authored it here, standing here, and so it's -- sure, it's George Bush's war, but it's the Democrats' war also.
Now, you want to end it? You're concerned about what's going to happen after we withdraw. Remember Vietnam. All the dominoes are going to fall, Southeast Asia's going to go -- is going to go communist. Well, how do we know what will happen? I do know this, that the insurgency is successful because the population sustains that insurgency. Period.
MR. BLITZER: Let's go to the next question from Tom.
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http://digg.com/world_news/Independent_Presidential_Debate_Coverage
Dugg
New Search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+presidential+debate+coverage
No change.
Back to the Debate:
MR. BLITZER: I don't know if we're having trouble with this mike. I'll read you his question.
The union leader, the main newspaper here in New Hampshire, asked readers to e-mail their questions. Here's one from Michael Pelletier, a major in the New Hampshire National Guard.
"Can you tell me if the mission we accomplished during our deployment in Iraq was worth our effort and sacrifice, or was it a waste of time and resources?
REP. KUCINICH: I honor the people who served. We all owe them a debt of gratitude, but those who sent those soldiers were wrong. They should have never been sent there in the first place, Wolf. This war has been based on lies, and we could have a productive evening here right now if all of my colleagues on this stage or in the Congress would commit to telling the Democratic leadership not even to offer a funding bill because that's really the way to end the war, Wolf, just say no money, the war's over.
You want to end it, bring them home, stop the funding.
And this is where Senator Clinton says well this is George Bush's war. Oh no. There's a teachable moment here, and a teachable moment is that this war belongs to the Democratic party because the Democrats were put in charge by the people in the last election with the thought that they were going to end the war. Well, they haven't. They have to stop the funding. And I certainly am urging all of my colleagues here, don't give them any more money. The money's in the pipeline right now, enough to bring the troops home.
MR. BLITZER: All right.
REP. KUCINICH: Let's end the war and let's make this a productive evening.
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MR. GRAVEL: More Americans died because of their decision. That disqualifies them for president. It doesn't mean they're bad people, it just means that they don't have moral judgment, and that's very important when you become president.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/us/politics/03demsdebate_transcript.html?pagewanted=7&bl&_r=1&ei=5087%0A&en=9793b5f3376eec42&ex=1181102400
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REP. KUCINICH: I reject this whole approach. And the American people should know that with half the bankruptcies in the country connected to people not being able to pay their doctor bills or hospital bills, premiums, co-pays and deductibles going so far through the roof -- 46 million Americans, no health care; another 50 million underinsured, there is only one way to get health care coverage for all Americans, and that is to have a universal single-payer, not-for- profit healthcare system, Medicare for All. Wolf, I've written the bill -- it's H.R. 676 -- with John Conyers, supported by 14,000 physicians.
MR. BLITZER: All right.
REP. KUCINICH: And you know what? What Senator Clinton, Senator Edwards, Senator Obama are talking about, they're talking about letting the insurance companies stay in charge. They're talking about continuing a for-profit health care system. (Applause.) And I think --
MR. BLITZER: All right. Hold on. No applause.
REP. KUCINICH: -- we need a president who's ready to challenge that. And I'm ready to challenge the insurance companies.
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MR. SPRADLING: Senator Gravel, if you are elected president, how, if at all, would you use former President Bill Clinton in your administration? (Laughter.)
SEN. CLINTON: (Laughs.)
MR. GRAVEL: How would I use him? I like Clinton as a roving ambassador around the world. He'd be good. He could take his wife with him, who will still be in the Senate. (Laughter.)
SEN. CLINTON: (Laughs.)
Ho ho ho
A commercial break?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17828.htm
I can watch that later.
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MR. BLITZER: Senator Gravel?
MR. GRAVEL: Yeah, well, I join him on the carbon tax. And, of course, that will raise the price of gasoline. Let's be candid about that.
There's nothing I would do as president to lower the price of gasoline right now. We Americans have to grow up. If we want to get off of the dependency in the Middle East, we have to own up to the problem. These things cost money. They're controlling our society.
And the sooner we stop fighting these wars -- here, stop and think. You only see $3. Just watch those wheels turn. There's another $4, which is what we spend to keep American troops around the world to keep the price.
So you're paying more than seven dollars a gallon; you just don't know it.
Anyone can check the link where these words are published to find what the crimnal frauds have to say while I cut and paste the honest parts out:
MR. VAUGHN: Jennie, what's your question for the candidates tonight?
Q My question is, what is your vision on ending major military operations, and how do you plan on rebuilding the military after such many years of conflict?
MR. BLITZER: All right, let me throw that question to Congressman Kucinich because he's been outspoken on a lot of these issues.
REP. KUCINICH: Thank you very much, Wolf.
First of all, thank you and your family for serving.
This country has to end its occupation of Iraq. And as I mentioned earlier, the Congress, the Democratic Congress, has a very serious responsibility in this regard.
We should simply not provide any bill at all. It's one thing to say you don't have the votes. It's another thing not to even offer a bill and tell the president he had some money now that's in the pipeline to bring the troops home.
And with respect to this war, this war has degraded our service ability. And we need to have, certainly, a strong Army, but I believe that peace is the way we reflect our strength. So I want to see an American military that will be a strong peacekeeping force, not one that is being misused, like the one in this administration, misused our military, and we need a commander in chief who wants to link peace with security and who wants to see America's role working with the world community in cooperation.
MR. BLITZER: But her question was specifically, what would you do to rebuild the military, which seems to be pretty stretched right now? What -- do you have a plan?
REP. KUCINICH: Well, the first thing we need to do is cut -- first of all, there's a couple different dimensions to this. One is, we need to cut military spending overall by about 25 percent. There's a lot of waste here we're talking about. Money hasn't been focused on the troops per se. This $97 billion that went for this war? This isn't going to the troops. A small fraction goes to the troops. So we need to have a strong military. We need to encourage people to be serving in our country's military, but we've got to end the United States' commitment to war as an instrument of diplomacy.
MR. BLITZER: All right. I'm going to bring everybody in, but Senator Obama, you want to increase the size of the U.S. military by almost 100,000 troops. That's going to cost billions and billions of dollars. What do you say to Congressman Kucinich, who says he wants to cut the size of the U.S. military?
If you are wondering where the money goes, then, do a Google search for Blackwater.
I can help:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Blackwater
http://www.amazon.com/Blackwater-Rise-Worlds-Powerful-Mercenary/dp/1560259795
You could do worse than read the book above.
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Senator Gravel, you served in the military during the Korean War. Have you had any experiences with the Veterans Affairs Department as a veteran yourself?
MR. GRAVEL: Very much. I get my meds from the VA, so I know the situation quite well.
MR. BLITZER: So you're satisfied or unsatisfied?
MR. GRAVEL: I'm satisfied, very much so, and I think they do a good job. But I think it's really somewhat appalling because the government has always, always waged war against the veterans. And I would suggest that Senator Obama, who's on the committee, did they do any -- any oversight work to find out, before they read in The Washington Post that there was a scandal up the street at Walter Reed?
MR. BLITZER: All right.
MR. GRAVEL: I mean, what about that?
MR. BLITZER: What about that --
MR. GRAVEL: Did they all get informed of that, or did you know it before?
SEN. OBAMA: The -- actually, we have done a lot of oversight trying to consistently force this administration to put money into the system that it has refused.
MR. GRAVEL: But did you know about it ahead of time?
SEN. OBAMA: Let -- let -- let -- let -- let me -- let me finish, Mike.
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MR. BLITZER: Congressman Kucinich, if you were president of the United States and the intelligence community said to you, "We know where Osama bin Laden is, he's in Pakistan. We've got a specific target, but he's only going to be there for 20 minutes. You got to give the order, yes or no, to take him out with a HELLFIRE missile, but it's going to kill some innocent civilians at the same time," what would be your decision?
REP. KUCINICH: I don't think that a president of the United States, who believes in peace and who wants to create peace in the world, is going to be using assassinations as a tool, because when you do that, it comes back at your country. And I think that Osama bin Laden, if he's still alive, ought to be held to account in an international court of law and so should any other person who's been involved in a violation of international law, which has been result -- which has resulted in the deaths of many people.
And so I think that an America which has a strong stand morally in the world is an America that shows a way to get to peace, and an America that stands for peace is a strong country.
So I would say, to answer that question, I don't believe in assassination politics, and when you do that, you inevitably bring the assassination of our own leaders into play.
MR. BLITZER: Senator Obama, you want to respond?
SEN. OBAMA: Well, I think Dennis is right, that --
Just in case you are wondering:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Assassination+Politics&spell=1
http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/jimbellap.htm
If you read the last link above and are someone confused as to the relevance here I can help. There is an economic term called "Selling Short". Someone can make a lot of money if they know 'inside information'.
Example:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=911+put+options
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html
Huge surges in purchases of put options on stocks of the two airlines used in the attack -- United Airlines and American Airlines
Another term for "Selling Short" is "Put Options" another one is "Insider Trading".
All are forms of Assassination Politics – read Jim Bell (who went to prison after writing Assassination Politics).
Thought crime
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MR. BLITZER: I just want everybody to raise their hand and tell me if you agree that if the U.S. had intelligence that could take out Osama bin Laden and kill him, even though some innocent civilians would die in the process, would you, as president, authorize such an operation? If you would raise your hand.
SEN. BIDEN: It would depend on how many innocent civilians --
SEN. CLINTON: Yeah, I mean part of this is one of these hypotheticals, Wolf --
MR. GRAVEL: Not enough information. Not enough information.
Falsehood must contain half truths otherwise we are all liars.
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Q Well, on a little bit of a lighter note, I spent last summer in Germany with a family whose oldest son was completing his one year of mandatory service to his country. I was wondering if you think we should have that, and if so, how do you plan to make it happen?
MR. BLITZER: All right, Senator Gravel, let me ask you that question.
MR. GRAVEL: And obviously, I filibustered and forced the end of the draft. I don't think we need it back. If you want to volunteer for the military, you're entitled to do it.
I would like to see a voluntary program where young people would have an opportunity to render public service, whether it's in the military, whether it's the Peace Corps, whether it's the AmeriCorps -- all of the above. And then for every year that you serve, we'll give you four years of school free. (Applause.) That would give you an incentive to move forward and do something about education in this country.
MR. BLITZER: Congressman Kucinich, should there be mandatory service for young people after they finish high school?
REP. KUCINICH: I would take the approach that John F. Kennedy took when he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country," and inspire young people to want to serve; want to serve not only in the military, which is honorable service, but also to serve in helping to clean up our environment; also to serve in tutoring children and helping the elderly and working hospitals.
There are so many different ways that we can encourage youth to serve. To make it mandatory loses the point. People want to love America again, and when you have a president who will inspire the young people, they'll want to get involved.
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REP. KUCINICH: I'm saying that we should not be borrowing money from China to run a war in Iraq. We need to change our spending policies in many ways.
First of all, stop war. Most of the people on this stage voted consistently to fund a war we should have never gotten in the first place.
Change our trade laws. We need to get out of NAFTA and the WTO and go back to bilateral trade -- (applause) -- conditioned on workers' rights, human rights, and the environment, and stop driving an $800 billion trade deficit.
We need to have health care for all, all Americans in a not-for- profit health care system. That's going to help the gentleman with his beauty salon and the small business, when you have a chance to health care at a fraction of what you're paying now and everything's covered.
And then, finally, environment. I say we can create millions of news jobs with a new WGA inspiring technologies for wind and solar and insulation on a domestic basis. We can create new wealth. I want to create new wealth and I want to stop wasting the money where we're wasting it --
MR. BLITZER: All right.
REP. KUCINICH: -- or losing the wealth in our trade policies.
What is "create new wealth"?
I call it Power Independence.
Ron Paul can see the same thing; I'm sure. His approach intends to create a race to the top by eliminating the barriers in place against transparent competition. Currently the oil and military companies are subsidized. Once they have to compete on a level playing field there will be a race to the top i.e. Power Independence.
The race will no longer be aiming at the bottom i.e. torture, rape, murder, mass torture, mass rape, mass murder, fraud, falsehood, violence, and other means to the same end i.e. the bottom.
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MR. GRAVEL: You can't get all this money coming at you, millions of dollars from all the special interests, and think that they're now going to deal with solving the problems with special interests. Won't happen.
Did you check out Blackwater yet?
How about a movie called Who Killed the Electric Car?
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MR. BLITZER: Thank you, Senator.
We're going to go back to Jennifer in a second, but I know Congressman Kucinich wants to weigh in.
MR. GRAVEL: Listen. They've been raiding the Social Security trust funds of $200 million a year, and they're all involved in this. Now, what do they say about it? You balance the budget by raiding the Social Security fund of $200 million a year? And they're doing it now!
MR. BLITZER: Congressman Kucinich, you want to respond to that?
REP. KUCINICH: I do, because we're looking at a process here in Washington that most of the American public isn't aware of. And that is, these interest groups have such a hold on our country that right now they're headed to grab the oil of Iraq using our troops. Right now they're keeping a not-for-profit health-care system in its place. Right now they're keeping NAFTA in its place. I'm talking about a real change here that gives the American people a chance to recover their country totally and by moving away from the interest groups --
MR. BLITZER: All right.
REP. KUCINICH: -- that, unfortunately, support some of my dear friends here.
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REP. KUCINICH: Keep in mind, we could stop that war in Iraq now by not providing any funding.
But what I intend to do is to be a president who helps to reshape the world for peace, to work with all the leaders of the world in getting rid of nuclear weapons, rejecting policies that create war as an instrument of the diplomacy; making sure that we cause the nations of the world to come together for fair trade, cancel NAFTA, cancel the WTO, go back to bilateral trade conditioned on workers' rights, human rights; create a not-for-profit health care system. I'd send the bill to Congress.
MR. BLITZER: Very quickly, Senator Gravel and then Senator Dodd. But very quickly, your top priority?
MR. GRAVEL: Top priority is to turn to these people and say they're part of the leadership right now in the Congress. They could end the war if they want to --
MR. BLITZER: Okay.
MR. GRAVEL: -- all they got to do is show the leadership and that will qualify them to be president.
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Did the Republicans debate?
How about a quick Google search to find out?
What can be typed into this search?
How about Independent Presidential Debate Coverage?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+presidential+debate+coverage
Guess what?
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,070,000 for Independent presidential debate coverage.
This web page has the two top spots now.
Here:
Asia Times Online Community and News Discussion - Independent ...
Independent Presidential Debate Coverage is hard to find. Imagine a world where you can get Independent Presidential Debate Coverage? ...
forum.atimes.com/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=10392&REPLY_ID=167197 - 30k - Jun 5, 2007 - [url=http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache xPLH32ljgsJ:forum.atimes.com/topic.asp%3Fwhichpage%3D-1%26TOPIC_ID%3D10392%26REPLY_ID%3D167197+Independent+presidential+debate+coverage&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us]Cached[/url] - Similar pages - Note this
And here:
Digg - Independent Presidential Debate Coverage
Where can you go to find the latest independent presidential debate coverage? Try Googling for Independent Presidential Debate Coverage ...
digg.com/world_news/Independent_Presidential_Debate_Coverage - 16k - Jun 5, 2007 - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
How about those republicans?
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First:
What does GOP stand for?
That is a loaded question.
I am trying to find independent coverage of the presidential debate between the republican candidates on June 6. So far all I can find is 'commercial' 'for profit' 'advertisements' concerning the event.
When I find an independent source (one that has the whole debate linked for me to link), then, I will link it and add my own version of 'spin'.
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http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21285157.shtml
Fixing The Presidential Debates
By Jonathan David Morris
Jun 7, 2007
Does anyone have a link to the republican debate on June 6 (uncut)?
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Google for
uncut republican debate june 6:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=uncut+republican+debate+june+6
http://video.aol.com/video/iran-a-focus-of-republican-debate/1920797
Advert...your video will play shortly
Is it no wonder that the ad was for drugs?
What the hell happened to the war on drugs?
While I typed the above the video ended. It can't be UNCUT.
Is that akin to 'false advertisement'?
What every happend to the war on fraud?
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I typed into Google:
Ron Paul June 6 Debate
I do that because Ron Paul is the honest ONE. The other's are criminals. That is my spin. I'd rather get the whole debate and then spin it as you, the reader, have the whole debate to spin in your own way.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y72Qz6A5CFE
I'm going to watch that while I wait for our global society to produce the uncut version of the debate. I can't do this myself.
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http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/gop.debate/results.html?userpick_q7=cand_7&userpick_q6=cand_7&userpick_q5=cand_7&userpick_q4=cand_6&userpick_q3=cand_7&userpick_q2=cand_7&userpick_q1=cand_7
I took the poll and after my vote the results show this:
Ron Paul (58%)
58%, according to that poll, place Ron Paul as the Debate winner.
10:04 AM June 07, 2007
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts213.html
One indication would be the response of presidential candidates to the gratuitous and failed war. What we saw at the Republican presidential candidates’ debate on June 5 is inconsistent with the self-esteem of the American people. All of the leading Republican presidential candidates openly and nonchalantly endorsed using nuclear weapons against Iran unless Iran abandons its right to enrich uranium under the non-proliferation treaty, to which Iran is a signatory (unlike nuclear-armed Israel, India, and US puppet Pakistan).
Note: Ron Paul is the only "Leading" candidate. He is openly against aggressive war.
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http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2007/06/nuking_iran_the_republican_age_1.html#more
Only Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, the "Dennis the Menace" of his party, said he opposed a nuclear strike on moral grounds and because he believed Iran "has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security."
Note the psychological behavior modification technique.
If you need me to point it out, then, you may be too far gone.
Consider how the only person who is not advocating the mass torturous murder of millions of innocent people for generations on end has been labeled as a ‘menace’.
Ron Paul is a ‘menace’ to falsehood i.e. he has the audacity to tell the truth and stand on moral principle.
Imagine that!
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http://restoretherepublic.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=11&Itemid=53
Independent and powerful forces are at work in our human existence. Don't let anyone dictate your focus of attention away from it.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17851.htm
Lies, Sighs and Politics
By Paul Krugman
06/08/07 "New York Times" -- -- In Tuesday’s Republican presidential debate, Mitt Romney completely misrepresented how we ended up in Iraq. Later, Mike Huckabee mistakenly claimed that it was Ronald Reagan’s birthday.
Guess which remark The Washington Post identified as the “gaffe of the night”?
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http://independentskeptic.blogspot.com/2007/06/democrats-were-in-new-hampshire-tonight.html
CNN's coverage was loaded with second-rate commentary.
People abusing power can impoverish, torture, maim, and kill millions upon millions of innocent human beings; therefore – it is necessary for innocent human beings to avoid misery, death, and destruction by limiting people abusing power.
That may not be easy to understand. That is the beginning of first rate commentary.
Among the possible candidates that will be in a position to abuse power are three who do not openly proclaim to anyone having an interest in their open claims, that, they will abuse power, they will torture, they will maim, and they will kill innocent people AT THE DROP OF A HAT.
Of the many there are three who have not PROMISED to torture, maim, kill, and abuse power once they get their greedy hands upon it.
There you have it. There you have first rate commentary.
Of all the candidates that can gain power there are three who are not proclaiming criminal intent.
That means, for those who have brains, that only three (if you don’t count me) are NOT CRIMINALS.
You can limit the abuse of power; if you have a conscience. Do not vote for people who PROMISE to commit crimes against humanity.
See how easy it can be?
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Independent Presidential Debate Coverage?
http://www.demsforronpaul.org/
Ron Paul on the Daily Show
http://www.demsforronpaul.org/
June 13th Ron Paul Appears on The Colbert Report on Comedy Central
Has anyone seen Steve Colbert roast the crimnal Bush? How about a search?
Stephen Colbert roasts Bush
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Stephen+Colbert+roasts+Bush
You can watch it; don't be afraid.
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/decoster/decoster122.html
no other candidate can offer: intellectual honesty instead of rehearsed responses
I quote the above here as an example of someone spreading falsehood.
Someone spreading falsehood is akin to a Troll under a bridge or akin to The Taxman.
The troll excludes people from knowledge.
Example:
If I report how no one other than Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are honest candidates, then, I leave out (stop anyone crossing the bridge to) Mike Gravel.
I become the troll.
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http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_gops_lonely_antiwar_candidate
Surely one of the highlights of the presidential primary debates held so far occurred back in mid-May, during the Republican debate in South Carolina: Ten-term Texas Congressman Ron Paul stood in front of a patriotic field of white stars on a blue backdrop and told Fox News correspondent Wendell Goler that the attacks of 9/11 occurred primarily as a response to U.S. foreign policy over the past few decades. "Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us?" he asked incredulously. "They attacked us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for ten years!"
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17873.htm
The lie was repeated on June 5 by Republican Mitt Romney, word for word, and was unchallenged by any other candidate for the devalued post of president of Washington-on-Oil. The commentator Larry Beihart recounts that "Wolf Blitzer, moderating the debate didn't correct him. The so-called journalists asking questions didn't seem to notice. The CNN post debate commentators didn't mention it. The New York Times and The Washington Post, in today's stories on the debate, didn't mention it. A web search this morning [June 6] didn't reveal any comments on Romney's astounding statement."
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north538.html
THE WEB PHENOMENON
After the first debate among the ten Republican candidates, the mainstream media’s polls ranked Giuliani, McCain, and Romney as the front-runners. But the on-line polls were blow-outs for Ron Paul.
What was going on?
After the second debate, on May 15, broadcast by Fox News, the Fox News website allowed viewers to vote for the nominee. These presumably were hard-core Fox News viewers. Over 40,000 voted. Romney got 29%. Paul got 25%. Giuliani got 19%.
Fox News has been supportive of the Iraq war from the beginning. Paul in 2003 voted against the funding of the Iraq war, one of the handful of Republicans in Congress who did. So, how could it be that Paul, an outspoken critic of the war, could receive that high a percentage on Fox News’ own website?
He had done even better on MSNBC’s website poll after the first debate, broadcast by MSNBC on May 3. The results were amazing. He overwhelmed the others in the four positive categories.
He got even higher percentages on the CNN poll.
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http://grantdwalker.zaadz.com/blog/2007/6/there_will_be_no_election_in_2008
Bush will immediately invoke the powers afforded under his recent Presidential Executive Order, which grants him control over all arms of US government and the American economy. America will become a police state and a draft will be implemented immediately. There will be no election in 2008.
It cannot be true. Do you understand? It cannot be true because people make sure that it cannot be true.
If someone told you that the dollar will crash tomorrow would you go to the bank and withdrawal your savings account today?
What if The President asked politely for you to please leave your dollars in the bank for one more day?
What would you believe?
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http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Citadel_CNN_YouTube_Democratic_debate_0723.html
Obama, Gravel tangle on campaign donations in 2008 'YouTube' debate
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How about a Google Search on YouTube debate?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=youtube+debate
Number one:
http://news.google.com/news?q=youtube+debate&hl=en&pwst=1&um=1&sa=X&oi=news_group&resnum=1&ct=title
Number 2:
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/07/24/youtube0724.html
You can do your own search. I'm looking for anything on Kucinich and/or Gravel. The "Others" are proponents of torture and mass murder (YUCK!).
Google for: youtube debate Kuchinich
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&pwst=1&um=1&resnum=1&ct=title&ie=UTF-8&q=youtube+debate+kucinich
... six of the eight candidates took a page from Al Gore by traveling to the debate in a private jet. (Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich were the exceptions. ...
Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio was the only candidate to endorse same-sex marriage, which came up in a video from "Mary" and "Jen" of Brooklyn, who coyly asked ...
Dennis Kucinich urging voters to send an anti-war text message to Congress? He said it once, before Cooper cut him off, and then again later in the debate. ...
7:07: A question specifically for Dennis Kucinich... great. Why would he be better than Hillary or any other candidate?
I want to see that one:
http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/07/the-youtube-debate.html
Damn; the link goes to an article. I'll look for the whole youtube debate link shortly.
How about Google for: YouTube Debate Direct Link
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&pwst=1&um=1&resnum=1&ct=title&ie=UTF-8&q=youtube+debate+direct+link
Damn; more articles.
How about a Google Search to YouTube and then a Search?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/
Many people already have youtube on their favorites.
Search: Debate
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Debate
That is old stuff (2 months ago)
Search YouTube: YouTube Debate
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=YouTube+Debate&search=Search
Damn; I need to select: Sort by Date
I can't find it.
I can't find the entire debate so I can see for myself how the debate played out in real time.
Anyone?
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=YouTube%20Debate%20Kucinich&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_category=0&search=Search&v=
YouTube Debate Kucinich (from search engine YouTube) above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-NW4TVcd7Q
Define Liberal?
Gravel claims Obama receives foreign finances (conflict of interest).
How about a search on that?
Google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Obama+campaign+finance+
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?cid=N00009638
No Disclosure: $74,000
http://www.cfinst.org/pr/prRelease.aspx?ReleaseID=155
That one offers some measure of data.
What is needed is a paper trail.
Statistics can be manipulated.
Who sent the money? Who recieved the money?
How much money sent by each individual can 'indicate' something.
Kucinich and Gavel recieved most of their money from people sending less than 200 dollars.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/16/AR2007071601831.html
Campaign finance records released Sunday showed the financial juggernaut that is Obama's candidacy: 258,000 individual donors, support from all over the country and $32.8 million raised over the past three months, $10 million more than Clinton raised for the Democratic primary over that period.
How about a search for: "Campaign finance records released Sunday"?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Campaign+finance+records+released+Sunday&spell=1
This is like pulling teeth.
Why is it difficult to get a break down of who paid whom?
Is it me? It must be me. I can easily report who pays me. No one. My wife is working and she pays for this site. She has no interest in what I do on this site beyond an interest in me personally; she is my wife.
Who paid whom and for what?
The nature of a false currency is to erase accontability.
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http://www.politicalmoneyline.com/cgi-win/pml1_sql_efview.exe?DoFn=C004314452008&Rptno=295237&server=PML2
Obama for America
Top 10 Employer Break-Out
(as reported by filer…not standardized)
- 2,547 Blank $11,655,043
- Not employed 3 million
- Self employed 3 million
- Information requested .8 million
- Lehman Brothers .1
- Citadel Investment Group .1
- Goldman Sachs .08
- Citigroup .05
- JP Morgan .05
- Proskauer Rose .05
You must be a FECInfoPro user to continue.
I tried to get more information on JP Morgan by clicking on the link at the site above.
How about a search for: Citadel Investent Group, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JP Morgan, Proskauer Rose, Campaign Finance?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Citadel+Investent+Group%2C+Goldman+Sachs%2C+Citigroup%2C+JP+Morgan%2C+Proskauer+Rose%2C+Campaign+Finance%3F
Check it out!
John MCcain
Rudy Guilani
Proskauer Rose shows up a lot.
How about a search for Proskauer Rose?
Founded in 1875, Proskauer Rose is one of the United States' largest and prestigious law firms, providing a wide variety of legal services to clients throughout the United States and around the world from offices in New York City, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., Boston, Boca Raton, Newark, New Orleans and Paris.
Proskauer Rose has wide experience in all areas of practice important to businesses, including corporate finance, mergers and acquisitions, real estate transactions, bankruptcy and reorganizations, taxation, litigation, trusts and estates, intellectual property, and labor and employment law. Its clients include participants in many industries, including chemicals, entertainment, financial services, health care, hospitality, information technology, insurance, internet, manufacturing, media and communications, pharmaceuticals, real estate investment, sports, and transportation.
Proskauer's lawyers also are active in important civic, philanthropic and trade organizations, often holding significant leadership positions. These community leaders are also frequently called on for advice and service by government agencies, the judiciary, bar and charitable organizations and corporate boards of directors.
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proskauer_Rose
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-NW4TVcd7Q
You are the judge; not me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjzZHHOUoc
This is disgusting. Those criminals are responsible for torture and mass murder.
Listen to Kucinich. Listen to Gavel.
God those other crimnals are hard to stomach.
Richardson is an unknown for me. Obama makes me sick. Clinton is disgusting.
These are my honest reactions.
"Yes; it is politics."
"The Democrats have failed the American People."
"NO MORE FUNDS FOR THE WAR USE THAT MONEY TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME"
"WHAT DID ALL THESE PEOPLE DIE FOR?"
"THERE IS ONLY ONE THING WORSE THAN A SOLDIER DYING IN VAIN IT'S MORE SOLDIERS DYING IN VAIN"
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http://www.youtube.com/debates?utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=youtube%20debate
I may have missed that link earlier.
Change?
How about Stop torturing and mass murdering?
Kucinich:
"We cannot wait until the next president takes office."
End the war now. Not later. Now.
On Oil/War
Kucinich:
"I'm the one who get's the connection"
Oil War
Get it?
On energy consumption:
Gravel:
"Very simple - change our tax structure - have a fair tax where people are taxed on what the spend rather than what they earn and our tax system is totally corrupt right now and so if we now have a retail sales tax it will take this nation of ours from a consuming nation to a savings nation and that’s the most significant thing we can do to alter climate change.”
Dodd:
50mpg standard
Entire federal fleet hybrid or electric automobiles Corporate carbon tax
Tax polluters
The only way this can be achieved
Private Jet?
Gravel took the train.
Kucinich didn’t raise his hand.
The country is going broke?
NEWS FLASH
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5823209513192072459
Before anyone continues to believe that the Country is Going Broke; before believing in that for another second PLEASE look at the above video and research Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports.
The only ones going broke are the taxpayers. Think with your own brain on this one.
Wow!
I am more and more impressed by Gravel each time I hear him speak.
Gravel:
"Follow the money"
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http://www.democrats.com/cnn-censors-impeachment-youtube
CNN is congratulating itself profusely for its YouTube debate, and they showed a lot of excellent questions. But they refused to show the #1 video as voted on by visitors to CommunityCounts. The hands-down winning question was on impeachment.
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http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Romney_and_Giuliani_have_yet_to_0727.html
Four days after the Democrat's 'landmark' YouTube debate in South Carolina, only Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) have agreed to participate in CNN's next web-oriented debate.
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/28/cnn-debate-postponed/
It’s unclear whether the other candidates will actually participate in the rescheduled debate. Romney recently mocked the debate, stating, “I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,” referring to a citizen dressed as a snowman who submitted a question about global warming.
To debate or not to debate; that is the question.
Do you feel lucky - PUNK!
YouTube is 'democratizing' the political process. If you don't play - you lose.
So...do ya' feel lucky - punk?
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Who stood out from the pack? * 60357 responses
Sam Brownback 2.5%
Jim Gilmore 1.3%
Rudy Giuliani 17%
Mike Huckabee 3.7%
Duncan Hunter 1.9%
John McCain 7.8%
Ron Paul 38%
Mitt Romney 22%
Tom Tancredo 2.8%
Tommy Thompson 3.4%
Who showed the most leadership qualities? * 59573 responses
Sam Brownback 2.4%
Jim Gilmore 1.9%
Rudy Giuliani 17%
Mike Huckabee 3.7%
Duncan Hunter 2.1%
John McCain 12%
Ron Paul 33%
Mitt Romney 21%
Tom Tancredo 2.7%
Tommy Thompson 3.6%
Who was the most convincing candidate? * 59329 responses
Sam Brownback 2.9%
Jim Gilmore 1.8%
Rudy Giuliani 15%
Mike Huckabee 4.5%
Duncan Hunter 2.2%
John McCain 9.9%
Ron Paul 36%
Mitt Romney 21%
Tom Tancredo 3%
Tommy Thompson 3.8%
Who had the most rehearsed answers? * 58168 responses
Sam Brownback 4.3%
Jim Gilmore 1.7%
Rudy Giuliani 22%
Mike Huckabee 2.6%
Duncan Hunter 1.7%
John McCain 31%
Ron Paul 6.4%
Mitt Romney 24%
Tom Tancredo 2.3%
Tommy Thompson 4.2%
Who avoided the questions? * 56611 responses
Sam Brownback 6%
Jim Gilmore 3.2%
Rudy Giuliani 36%
Mike Huckabee 3.4%
Duncan Hunter 3.1%
John McCain 18%
Ron Paul 6.3%
Mitt Romney 13%
Tom Tancredo 4.2%
Tommy Thompson 5.8%
Who had the best one-liner? * 56527 responses
Sam Brownback 3.4%
Jim Gilmore 1.7%
Rudy Giuliani 14%
Mike Huckabee 7.4%
Duncan Hunter 2.4%
John McCain 14%
Ron Paul 31%
Mitt Romney 16%
Tom Tancredo 4.2%
Tommy Thompson 5.5%
To understand and see for yourself how the "Mainstream Media" controls information and publishes outright lies (dis-information), do a Google News search for "republican debate winner". If you can find any Mainstream Media article declaring the TRUTH that Dr. Ron Paul was (and still is) the clear winner in the California debate according to public polls, please feel free to send me a copy. I couldn't find even one as of this posting.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18436681
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http://www.freedomworks.org/strawpoll/
Ron Paul is still winning.
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http://www.justin.tv/ronpaul
That may be a live link to the Iowa Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9N6BW7SjIw
That may be a record of the Iowa Debate
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=ron+paul+speaks+truth+kooks&search=Search
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http://rpmuv.wordpress.com/2007/08/06/you-have-to-see-the-end-of-this-one/
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http://youtube.com/denniskucinich
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Liar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekNceS2zJtY
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http://www.nysun.com/article/61935
Mayor Giuliani, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, and Senator McCain are all declining to participate in a September 17 debate in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., that's being hosted by an umbrella social-conservative group called ValuesVoter.org. Social conservatives will be upset; other conservatives might well be heartened by the waning power of the religious right.
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http://www.fresnobee.com/649/story/130084.html
Alone among the contenders, Paul, a veteran Texas congressman with a libertarian streak, made the case for withdrawing troops. That drew a sharp challenge from Chris Wallace, one of the debate questioners, who asked whether the United States should take its marching orders from al-Qaida.
"No! We should take our marching orders from our Constitution," Paul shouted back, pointing his pen at Wallace for emphasis. "We should not go to war without a declaration" by Congress.
Occasionally interrupted by applause, Paul doggedly stuck to his point. "We have lost over 5,000 Americans over there in Afghanistan, in Iraq and plus the civilians killed," he said during his exchange with Huckabee.
"How long - what do we have to pay to save face? That's all we're doing, is saving face. It's time we came home," Paul said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295883,00.html
Paul then responded: "The American people didn't go in. A few people advising this administration, a small number of people called the neoconservatives hijacked our foreign policy. They're responsible, not the American people."
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[size=2 _extended="true"]But Tancredo said sometimes talk is not enough. While he refused to condone any forms of torture, he said he drew a broad line on which actions qualify as torture.
[size=2 _extended="true"]"I would do — certainly, waterboard — I don't believe that that is, quote, 'torture.' I would do what is necessary to protect this country. That is the ultimate responsibility of the president of the United States. All of the other things that we do, all of the other things — all of the other powers vested in him pale in comparison to his responsibility to keep the people of this country safe. And that is ultimate. And, yes, I would go to great lengths to keep this country safe."
[size=2 _extended="true"]Paul added that the ongoing threat to national security has enabled the president to gain too many powers, and those powers are being used to grow a bigger and more inefficient bureaucracy that is spending excessively without results.
[size=2 _extended="true"]"Just going for increasing presidential powers, as has been discussed, is rather disturbing to me. This whole idea that we're supposed to sacrifice liberty for security, we're advised against that. Don't we remember that when you sacrifice liberty for security, you lose both? That's what's happening in this country today," Paul said.
Why is it so difficult to find video records of presidential debates?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Who+won+the+debate%3F
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+on-line+presidential+debate+coverage
http://www.infowars.com/articles/media/corporate_media_censor_paul_debate_success.htm
Corporate Media Censor Ron Paul's Debate Success
Establishment press ignore massive popular approval for Texas Congressman in every poll, ABC only add Paul to poll list after furious complaints
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http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2007/09/03/daily17.html
McCain places fifth in Maryland straw poll -- Paul wins
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http://thinkrink.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/ron-paul-wins-2nd-fox-news-debate-despite-ridicule-opposition/
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Gandhi
It is obvious that, after seeing the Fox News Debates on Sept. 5th, 2007, the mainstream media and GOP see Ron Paul as enough of a threat to stop ignoring him, and to start ridiculing him. From using a split screen to show Giuliani smirking as Ron Paul answers his questions, to the background chuckles as he is asked questions, Ron Paul has apparently become the butt of an inside joke.
However, with a 33% win in the post-debate poll, it is Ron Paul who should be laughing. Of course, Sean Hannity could not resist making the ridiculous statement that the “Paulites” had spammed the poll. The argument, both false and illogical, is used to attempt to plant the seed in the minds of the American people that Ron can’t win, and conclude he is a “wasted” vote.
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http://screamfreedom.blogspot.com/
Why does Fox News lie about it's post debate poll?
They're claiming Ron Paul supporters are spamming the poll,every time he wins the poll, when they know you can only text your vote once from a single phone.
FOX NEWS definitely has credibility problems.
Ron Paul won the poll with an overwhelming 33%, even with the few questions he was asked.
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http://openletter2foxnews.wordpress.com/
Last night was a horrible demonstration of blatant attempted manipulation and I call on Fox News to end this sort of behavior immediately. I encourage all Fox News employees to vote in this upcoming election, but not use your widely broadcast news organization to try and sway uninformed Americans towards another candidate who will be just as unpopular as the current President. It’s not your election to choose, Fox News. “You Choose 2008” is directed towards the American people, not the Fox Network.
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http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11570
on Versus the Huckster
Antiwar Republican sets the terms of GOP debate
by Justin Raimondo
We know that Ron Paul did great in the Republican presidential debate sponsored by Fox News and held in Durham, New Hampshire, because how else can we explain neocon Andy McCarthy's exclamation of despair over at the National Review group blog? "Why," he cried out in anguish, "is there so much cheering for Ron Paul?"
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http://www.veracifier.com/episodes
http://www.veracifier.com/tpm-tv/episode/TPM_20070822
If you watch; note - they are happy (probalby laughing all the way to the Bank).
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http://www.pastpeak.com/archives/2005/02/nyt_spiked_stor.htm
In any case, how can it not be news when the President of the United States cheats in debates that play a significant role in deciding who becomes leader of the free world? And how can it not be news when the President of the United States feels he has to cheat, that he cannot manage to come up with his own answers to the questions of the day?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEzKjjdwC9g
http://www.petitiononline.com/gvsp2008/petition.html
To: Ron Paul and Mike Gravel campaign HQs
Mike Gravel recently made a statement that he would like to have a one hour, one on one debate with Ron Paul. He made the statement to Ron Paul supporters, and left it up to the people to make a petition.
This is the petition to show the support for a Mike Gravel vs Ron Paul debate!
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
1640 Signatures Total
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Senator Mike Gravel to Appear in National Presidential Debate
Former U.S. Senator and current Presidential Candidate Mike Gravel will participate in a national debate that will be broadcast live from New Hampshire on Wednesday, Sept. 26, 9p EST.
NBC News, New England Cable News (NECN), Dartmouth College and New Hampshire Public Radio are cosponsoring the Democratic presidential debate in conjunction with the Democratic National Committee.
The debate will be held from 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. EST and will be moderated by NBC News Washington Bureau Chief Tim Russert, the host of NBC's "Meet the Press." NECN's Alison King will also participate. The 90-minute debate, which is the last one for New Hampshire, will also be streamed live on MSNBC.com.
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2003906512_debate27.html
I tried to find something worth quoting. I could not.
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GRAVEL AT DARTMOUTH DEBATE: "WE'RE STARTING A WAR RIGHT NOW"
Senator Mike Gravel, appearing in the Democratic presidential debate on Sept. 27 in Hanover, N.H., wasted no time laying out his plan to force an end to the Iraq War.
When asked by moderator Tim Russert how Senator Gravel would overcome the deadlock on passing legislation to end the war, he responded: "You stop the debate [over ending the war] by voting every single day on cloture. Twenty days, and you'll overcome cloture. The president vetoes the law. It comes back to the Congress. And in the House at noon every single day you vote to override the president's veto. You tell me that the votes aren't there-you go get them by the scruff of the neck, that's what you do. You make them vote."
Questioned by Russert if he was suggesting that the candidates suspend their campaigns to end the war, Senator Gravel responded: "If it stops the killing-my God, yes-do it."
The Senator then turned his attention to a vote that New York Senator Hillary Clinton had cast earlier in the day on a nonbinding resolution, known as the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which sanctions a U.S. attack on Iran.
"We're just starting a war right today," said Senator Gravel. "There was a vote in the Senate today. Joe Lieberman, who authored the Iraq resolution, has offered another resolution, and it is essentially a fig leaf to let George Bush go to war with Iran. I want to congratulate Biden for voting against it, Dodd for voting against it. And I am ashamed of you, Hillary, for voting for it."
The topic turned to immigration and whether the candidates would allow safe havens or "sanctuary cities" for undocumented aliens.
"We're scapegoating the Latinos of our society because we as a society are failing in education, we're failing in healthcare, we're failing in our crumbling infrastructure, and we're failing by invading countries and spending our treasure," said Senator Gravel. "That's what's wrong. And so I'm ashamed as an American to be building a fence on our southern border. That's not the America that I fought for."
Gravel was the only candidate to respond affirmatively to Russert's question concerning lowering the drinking age to 18.
"I think we should lower it so anybody that could go fight and die for this country should be able to drink," answered Senator Gravel.
Later, Senator Gravel pushed his plan for a carbon tax to wean America off its addiction to oil.
"We can get off the gasoline in five years, and we can get off of carbon in 10 years. All we have to do is want to do it," said Senator Gravel. "[If] we put a tax on gasoline, [this] permits politicians and bureaucrats to play favorites. You do it right at the lump of coal, and you do it at the gas, and you do it at the oil, and then that filters through the system properly."
When asked if he supported nuclear power, Senator Gravel responded emphatically: "Not at all. The solution, obviously, is wind power. If we manufactured 5 million of these 2.5 meg windmills across the country, we could electrify the entire nation-the entire nation."
Russert closed the debate by questioning the candidates on their favorite Bible verse. The Senator responded: "The most important thing in life is love. That's what empowers courage, and courage implements the rest of our virtues."
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http://news.yahoo.com/fc/US/2008_Presidential_Election
Yahoo supports torturing mass murderer's?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2LdA_L1-r8
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I am having a hard time finding the latest up to date Independent Presidential Debate Coverage (without all the lies parroted by the torturing mass murdering criminals) so...
Google?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+Presidential+Debate+Coverage+
This web page is on top of the list and Yahoo (supporters of mass murder and torture) is down on the list.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrZSSSW9LT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6O0AlS4Nm8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5pnWrjpCCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1wdvr_jDAw
On the question of unemployment:
No interest loans on primary residence.
Pay it back or receive no more no interest loans until you pay the first one back.
1% interest loans on home energy production (solar panels, wind generators, etc.) and this applies to any current or future business.
2% interest loans on any alternate energy industry (production, sales, shipping, and consumption of Solar Panels, Wind Generators, electric cars, etc.).
These increases in economic activity will increase the demand for labor and our economy will pay more for a scarce supply of labor including paying for a greater rate of legal immigration of able and eager workers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMKyRqHMDcI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZaRulHMFZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_hCmCtljM
Defense? Ahhh...invading another country, torturing, and mass murdering innocent people is not DEFENCE FOOL!
Kurdish North, Shia South, bla...bla...bla...that guy is another FOOL! If the people of Iraq where subjects who obey dictates from American politicians, then, any solution would work; send in the troops and make them obey or else. How is this working so far?
Genocide? What is that fool talking about? The practice of genocide has always been financed by political criminals so the fool merely admits which side of the fence he occupies. How much does that guy profit from torture and mass murder? Ask him where he gets his campaign money and what he has to do to get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHZREP1WP_U
"We" need to do this and "We" need to do that so if that is true then "YOU" go ahead and do it and get everyone included in "We" to do these things that "YOU" want to do and allow me the LIBERTY to do what I know to be right and I will suffer MY MISTAKES including a mistake I make in failing to help anyone (like people being tortured and mass murdered in Iraq).
The above links were here:
http://www.voteronpaul.com/videos/ron_paul_092907_pbs_republican_all_american_forum_3.html
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/21149087
Don't miss the CNBC/MSNBC/WSJ sponsored GOP presidential debate next Tuesday from Dearborn, Michigan. The two hour debate will be live on CNBC-TV and streaming on CNBC.com starting at 4p EST.
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer164.html
“The only promise that I will make is that if I’m elected I will immediately disband the student government so that nobody will ever have to sit through one of these stupid assemblies again!”
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http://www.ronpaulnews.net/2007/10/ron-paul-on-msnbc-live-with-dan-abrams.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjylvNNo7zc
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http://www.wral.com/news/political/story/1949463/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmqKo_71-mg
http://www.voteronpaul.com/
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Senator Gravel
To Broadcast Alternate Debate
Gravel Supporters Nationwide,
If you live within driving distance of Philadelphia, you can help former Senator and current Democratic Presidential Candidate Mike Gravel protest MSNBC's arbitrary decision to exclude him from the Democratic debate it will be hosting tonight at Drexel University.
After originally making arrangements to include all the Democratic candidates, MSNBC (owned by General Electric) reversed itself and created questionable criteria apparently devised to exclude the most outspoken critic of the military-industrial complex. Despite having met all but the most arbitrary fundraising requirements, Senator Gravel has been shut out of the debate.
In lieu of this, Senator Gravel will be speaking at the World Café Live (3025 Walnut St. in Philadelphia) at an alternate Democratic Debate. Participants will have the opportunity to watch the debate with the Senator and listen to his views as the evening unfolds. Afterward, the Senator will take questions from the audience until midnight.
The entire event will be broadcast at Gravel2008.us live from the World Café starting at 8:30pm ET.
We can't stop corporate censorship by MSNBC, but we have the power to let the American people learn about the candidates -- even the ones General Electric wants to silence.
Earlier in the day, the Philadelphia Regional Antiwar Network is sponsoring a peace rally a few short blocks away at 34th and Chestnut. Senator Gravel signs will be available there (or bring your own!!) and many of the rally participants will be joining us inside.
See map here:http://maps.live.com/
If you need more information on the event, please contact our office via email at phillydebates@gravel2008.us.
Finally, since the powers that be now require that Senator Gravel raise $1 million in order to participate in the debates, please make a donation to the campaign by clicking on this link or by calling 703-652-4698. With your help we can stop corporate censorship and ensure that the American people are allowed to hear Senator Gravel.
Thank you for your support,
Team Gravel
[url=mailtohillydebates@gravel2008.us]Phillydebates@gravel2008.us[/url]
Learn More http://www.gravel2008.us
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Kucinichr.com - Announcing the Best Television Not On TV
Dear Joe Kelley,
I don't know what you're doing on the night of the Democratic debate tomorrow, but if you're by your computer, why not join us for a chat?
Congressman Kucinich's appearance will not only be the biggest event on national television since the World Series has ended, but he'll also be broadcasting live via the internet as well! We've set up Kucinichr.com, an internet channel where the campaign can host its own live programming.
On Kucinichr.com, Dennis will be broadcasting live backstage from the debate. If your computer can access the internet, you're one click away from watching and talking to the Congressman and other supporters live.
It's not too late to host a debate party, grab some friends, and talk about Dennis Kucinich.
The debate is from 9:00-11:00 PM EST on MSNBC, and the live conversation on Kucinichr starts at 11:00, immediately following the debate.
Even if you can't make it to a party or a TV, you and your friends can still go to Kucinichr.com tomorrow night for an interactive broadcast with supporters, campaign staff and Dennis Kucinich!
If the media doesn't cover our growing campaign - polling at 7% in New Hampshire, preferred in principle by most voters(2), and fueled by Americans like you - we'll cover ourselves! For programming of substance, tune into our channel along with everyone else that you can show this site to.
At 11:00 EST after the debate, we hope you join us at Kucinichr.com. Just click the link and have a conversation with the campaign!
Thanks again and Strength through Peace,
Kucinich for President
dennis4president.com
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Dear Joe Kelley,
I don't know what you're doing on the night of the Democratic debate tomorrow, but if you're by your computer, why not join us for a chat?
Congressman Kucinich's appearance will not only be the biggest event on national television since the World Series has ended, but he'll also be broadcasting live via the internet as well! We've set up Kucinichr.com, an internet channel where the campaign can host its own live programming.
On Kucinichr.com, Dennis will be broadcasting live backstage from the debate. If your computer can access the internet, you're one click away from watching and talking to the Congressman and other supporters live.
It's not too late to host a debate party, grab some friends, and talk about Dennis Kucinich.
The debate is from 9:00-11:00 PM EST on MSNBC, and the live conversation on Kucinichr starts at 11:00, immediately following the debate.
Even if you can't make it to a party or a TV, you and your friends can still go to Kucinichr.com tomorrow night for an interactive broadcast with supporters, campaign staff and Dennis Kucinich!
If the media doesn't cover our growing campaign - polling at 7% in New Hampshire, preferred in principle by most voters(2), and fueled by Americans like you - we'll cover ourselves! For programming of substance, tune into our channel along with everyone else that you can show this site to.
At 11:00 EST after the debate, we hope you join us at Kucinichr.com. Just click the link and have a conversation with the campaign!
Thanks again and Strength through Peace,
Kucinich for President
dennis4president.com
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_presidential_debates,_2008
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http://www.ustream.tv/Gravel2008/videos/lYSUmY,gpZixLmp7zuvXQA
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHE
If you want war, then, look up the war candidates.
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/senator-mike-gravels-alternative-democratic-debat
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http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/11/cnns-las-vegas-post-debate-analysis.html
It's hard to have a bad debate performance when:
** The audience is planted in your favor
** The questions are planted in your favor
** The questioners are your supporters
** The after debate spin room includes 2 former staff members and 1 current campaign analyst
The post debate was as Clinton-friendly as the actual debate.
The CNN debate may have been pre-planned and censored every step of the way, but CNN did not have to worry about a Clinton-friendly environment in the post debate.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/20912413@N05/2036715666/
CNN Caught Planting Questions and Reporting on Debate Events Before They Happen
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http://digg.com/elections/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ4IW0Y_7WY&feature=related
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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/28/romney-torture-black/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk6CQVvMtNU
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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/28/more-boos-at-republican-youtube-debate-as-mccain-re-writes-history/
The Republican CNN/YouTube debate looked more like an episode of Jerry Springer than a presidential debate. Senator John McCain was asked a question about taxes and decided to go way off topic and attack Rep. Ron Paul for his stance on Iraq and wanting to bring the troops home.
McCain accused Paul of what he called the same sort of appeasement that allowed Hitler to take power and WWII to happen, and told him he’d just returned from Iraq and said he had a message for Ron from “the troops” — and the audience let him have it. Paul put it right back in his face by reminding him that he has received more donations from active duty military personnel than any other Republican candidate. Oh, did anyone notice Chuck Norris in the audience? This stuff just writes itself…
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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/28/486055.aspx
From NBC's Lauren Appelbaum
Here are our counts for how long each candidate spoke during the first part of the debate
Romney -- 7:03, during 9 times
McCain -- 5:09, during 4 times
Giuliani -- 5:08, during 9 times
Thompson -- 4:38, during 4 times
Huckabee -- 4:14, during 5 times
Paul -- 3:27, during 4 times
Tancredo -- 2:20, during 4 times
Hunter -- 2:16, during 3 times
One note -- Huckabee did not get a chance to speak until 26 minutes into the debate, and Paul did not get his chance until more than a half hour into the debate.
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http://www.wisebread.com/why-league-of-women-voters-calls-presidential-debates-frauds
LEAGUE REFUSES TO "HELP PERPETRATE A FRAUD"
WITHDRAWS SUPPORT FROM FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE
WASHINGTON, DC —"The League of Women Voters is withdrawing its sponsorship of the presidential debate scheduled for mid-October because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter," League President Nancy M. Neuman said today.
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http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/11/the-questions-t.html
The Questions that CNN Viewers May Not See
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4052162
(10.) They aren't debates!
(9.) The debates were hijacked from the truly independent League of Women Voters in 1986.
(8.) The "independent and non-partisan" Commission on Presidential Debates is neither independent nor non-partisan.
(7.) The secretly negotiated debate contract bars Kerry and Bush from any and all other debates for the entire campaign.
(6.) The debate contract effectively excludes all other serious presidential candidates from participating in the debates.
(5.) All members of the studio audience must be certified as "soft" supporters of Bush and Kerry, under selection procedures they approve.
(4.) These "soft" audience members must "observe in silence."
(3.) The "extended discussion" portion of the debate cannot exceed 30 seconds.
(2.) Important issues are locked out by the CPD debate rules and party control.
(1.) Fortune 100 corporations are the main funders of the CPD-sponsored debates, and the CPD's co-chairs are corporate lobbyists.
Note: Old news; however - the ground lost (censorship) is exposing gains (free flow of information).
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http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-debate29nov29,1,3395365.story?coll=la-politics-campaign&ctrack=1&cset=true
The unconventional debate sponsored by CNN and YouTube featured often raw and emotional questions from the public, in the form of 33 videos. Questions came from a gay general from Northern California, a black father and son from Atlanta worried about crime, and a young white Texan asking the candidates for their views on flying the Confederate flag.
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http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/gop.debate/
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2007/11/28/RepublicansDebate_1128.html#poll?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab
http://news.aol.com/?feature=20071128120609990001
Ron Paul (60%)
Ron Paul (59%)
Ron Paul (42%)
4.
Who had the most disappointing performance at the debate?
George Bush had very few defenders in this field of Republicans.
Rudy Giuliani (32%)
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http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/20094-cnn-debates-an-interesting-take-by-kucinich-supporters?play=1
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http://hypnosiscontrol.com/blatant-propaganda-in-the-cnn-november-28th-presidential-debate/
Having a question with such obvious bias is what disgusts me. As a mainstream news organization CNN should 100% filter questions out like this one.
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http://www.thinkmoderate.com/2007/06/corporate-media-has-decided-2008.html
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http://bravenewfilms.org/election?utm_source=rgemail
Election coverage live
IOWA caucuses
Whatever that means. I can try to translate.
I think that means the following:
IOWA caucuses intend to exclude the better candidates and leave only the worst two evil candidates.
http://www.thestar.com/fpLarge/video/290470
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti9Uc8GeM_A
Gag?
http://www.justacitizen.com/
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http://www.jwharrison.com/blog/2008/01/05/join-kucinich-in-protest-outside-of-debate-tonight/
Join Kucinich in Protest Outside of Debate Tonight!
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http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5561
CNN's Jack Cafferty calls Dennis Kucinich a "feisty little dude" for taking MSNBC to court for excluding him from the Democratic debate tonight in Las Vegas. A judge agreed that it would be unfair to exclude Kucinich and ordered MSNBC to allow the Congressman to debate. MSNBC has appealed that ruling and the hearing is ongoing.
The viewer E-mail in the second half of the Cafferty File is interesting as well. One viewer suggests that war profits by MSNBC parent company GE were driving the effort to exclude Kucinich from the debate. And the final viewer email by Tony poignantly answers Cafferty's questions about whether the courts should intervene in such cases:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNXP1djL27A
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353&hl=en
Who fell off the turnip truck this morning?
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http://www.knowbeforeyouvote.com/
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19453.htm
Well, the reasoning and the underlying attitudes carry over with almost no change to the critical commentary on the US invasion of Iraq today. And it is a land of wreck and ruin. You've already heard a few words; I don't have to review the facts. The highly regarded British polling agency, Oxford Research Bureau, has just updated its estimate of deaths. Their new estimate a couple of days ago is 1.3 million. That's excluding two of the most violent provinces, Karbala and Anbar. On the side, it's kind of intriguing to observe the ferocity of the debate over the actual number of deaths. There's an assumption on the part of the hawks that if we only killed a couple hundred thousand people, it would be OK, so we shouldn't accept the higher estimates. You can go along with that if you like.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19477.htm
We can trust Correa to keep the peace South of the Border. But can we trust our Presidents-to-be?
The current man in the Oval Office, George Bush, simply can’t help himself: an outlaw invasion by a right-wing death-squad promoter is just fine with him.
But guess who couldn’t wait to parrot the Bush line? Hillary Clinton, still explaining that her vote to invade Iraq was not a vote to invade Iraq, issued a statement nearly identical to Bush’s, blessing the invasion of Ecuador as Colombia’s “right to defend itself.” And she added, “Hugo Chávez must stop these provoking actions.” Huh?
I assumed that Obama wouldn’t jump on this landmine – especially after he was blasted as a foreign policy amateur for suggesting he would invade across Pakistan’s border to hunt terrorists.
It’s embarrassing that Barack repeated Hillary’s line nearly verbatim, announcing, “the Colombian government has every right to defend itself.”
(I’m sure Hillary’s position wasn’t influenced by the loan of a campaign jet to her by Frank Giustra. Giustra has given over a hundred million dollars to Bill Clinton projects. Last year, Bill introduced Giustra to Colombia’s Uribe. On the spot, Giustra cut a lucrative deal with Uribe for Colombian oil.)
Then there’s Mr. War Hero. John McCain weighed in with his own idiocies, announcing that, “Hugo Chavez is establish[ing] a dictatorship,” presumably because, unlike George Bush, Chavez counts all the votes in Venezuelan elections.
But now our story gets tricky and icky.
A timely history lesson:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19479.htm
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19754.htm
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http://pol.moveon.org/enoughdistractions/?rc=homepage
Enough is enough. The public needs the media to stop hurting the national dialogue in this important election year. Can you sign the petition to ABC and other media outlets and pass it on to friends who are also fed up?
A compiled petition with your individual comment will be presented to ABC and other media.
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http://therealmccain.com/interview/?utm_source=rgemail
Satire?
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C-SPAN Debate LIVE Tonight
May 24, 2008
Dear Friends,
We are here in Denver in the midst of the Libertarian Convention. Earlier today Senator Gravel acquired enough "tokens" to participate in this evening's Libertarian Presidential Debate, broadcast LIVE on C-SPAN at 9 pm EST. He and five fellow presidential candidates will debate for two hours.
Tomorrow, Libertarian delegates will select their standard bearer for the November election. In addition to tonight's debate, Mike has the opportunity tonight to deliver a speech to the convention and make his case for why he is the best candidate to bring the Libertarian message to the American people.
AND, in case you don't remember the courageous honesty and passion that Mike brought to the Democratic debates, here are a few reminders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWgYQANTQw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o&feature=related
Now it's time for the Libertarian community to see what Mike will bring to the national debates, where he would take on McCain and Obama with the same ferocity and vision he has demonstrated his entire career. Be sure to tune in to C-SPAN tonight, and check the website for nomination updates from the convention floor tomorrow.
Your support has been truly appreciated, and let's cheer for Mike this weekend!
Give 'em hell, Gravel!
The Gravel Campaign
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Reuters is looking for participants in a new mobile journalism project that will capture this year’s conventions from the ground up. We will be equipping attendees with video cameras, and helping them to shoot footage from their own perspective and upload it to Reuters.com and other sites.
We hope to capture an unseen side of the conventions, from those most involved — delegates, donors, convention volunteers and others. Unfortunately we can’t provide passes into the conventions. But if you already have plans to attend, or know someone who does, email reutersmojo@gmail.com for more details.
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Currently, we are working with retired military leaders at both conventions to get strong, clear wording against the use of torture into both parties' platforms. This month, a letter signed by 31 retired Generals and Admirals went to both the Democratic and Republican Platform Committees asking them to commit to upholding our obligations under the Geneva Conventions and return the United States to its long-standing and proper role as a world leader on human rights.
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http://www.thirdpartyticket.com/
Open the Presidential Debates... or we will!
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