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Posted: Tue Jul 24th, 2007 01:39 pm

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http://www.politicalmoneyline.com/cgi-win/pml1_sql_efview.exe?DoFn=C004314452008&Rptno=295237&server=PML2

Obama for America

Top 10 Employer Break-Out

(as reported by filer…not standardized)

2,547 Blank $11,655,043
Not employed 3 million
Self employed 3 million
Information requested .8 million
Lehman Brothers .1
Citadel Investment Group .1
Goldman Sachs .08
Citigroup .05
JP Morgan .05
Proskauer Rose .05

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I tried to get more information on JP Morgan by clicking on the link at the site above.

How about a search for: Citadel Investent Group, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, JP Morgan, Proskauer Rose, Campaign Finance?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Citadel+Investent+Group%2C+Goldman+Sachs%2C+Citigroup%2C+JP+Morgan%2C+Proskauer+Rose%2C+Campaign+Finance%3F

Check it out!

John MCcain

Rudy Guilani

Proskauer Rose shows up a lot.

How about a search for Proskauer Rose?

Founded in 1875, Proskauer Rose is one of the United States' largest and prestigious law firms, providing a wide variety of legal services to clients throughout the United States and around the world from offices in New York City, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., Boston, Boca Raton, Newark, New Orleans and Paris.

Proskauer Rose has wide experience in all areas of practice important to businesses, including corporate finance, mergers and acquisitions, real estate transactions, bankruptcy and reorganizations, taxation, litigation, trusts and estates, intellectual property, and labor and employment law. Its clients include participants in many industries, including chemicals, entertainment, financial services, health care, hospitality, information technology, insurance, internet, manufacturing, media and communications, pharmaceuticals, real estate investment, sports, and transportation.

Proskauer's lawyers also are active in important civic, philanthropic and trade organizations, often holding significant leadership positions. These community leaders are also frequently called on for advice and service by government agencies, the judiciary, bar and charitable organizations and corporate boards of directors.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proskauer_Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-NW4TVcd7Q

You are the judge; not me.

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Posted: Tue Jul 24th, 2007 02:39 pm

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjzZHHOUoc

This is disgusting. Those criminals are responsible for torture and mass murder.

Listen to Kucinich. Listen to Gavel.

God those other crimnals are hard to stomach.

Richardson is an unknown for me. Obama makes me sick. Clinton is disgusting.

These are my honest reactions.

"Yes; it is politics."

"The Democrats have failed the American People."

"NO MORE FUNDS FOR THE WAR USE THAT MONEY TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME"

"WHAT DID ALL THESE PEOPLE DIE FOR?"

"THERE IS ONLY ONE THING WORSE THAN A SOLDIER DYING IN VAIN IT'S MORE SOLDIERS DYING IN VAIN"

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Posted: Tue Jul 24th, 2007 07:01 pm

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http://www.youtube.com/debates?utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-google&utm_medium=ha&utm_term=youtube%20debate

I may have missed that link earlier.

Change?

How about Stop torturing and mass murdering?

Kucinich:

"We cannot wait until the next president takes office."

End the war now. Not later. Now.

On Oil/War

Kucinich:

"I'm the one who get's the connection"

Oil War

Get it?

On energy consumption:

Gravel:

"Very simple - change our tax structure - have a fair tax where people are taxed on what the spend rather than what they earn and our tax system is totally corrupt right now and so if we now have a retail sales tax it will take this nation of ours from a consuming nation to a savings nation and that’s the most significant thing we can do to alter climate change.”

Dodd:
50mpg standard
Entire federal fleet hybrid or electric automobiles Corporate carbon tax
Tax polluters
The only way this can be achieved

Private Jet?

Gravel took the train.

Kucinich didn’t raise his hand.

The country is going broke?

NEWS FLASH

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5823209513192072459

Before anyone continues to believe that the Country is Going Broke; before believing in that for another second PLEASE look at the above video and research Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports.

The only ones going broke are the taxpayers. Think with your own brain on this one.

Wow!

I am more and more impressed by Gravel each time I hear him speak.

Gravel:

"Follow the money"

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Posted: Fri Jul 27th, 2007 06:39 pm

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http://www.democrats.com/cnn-censors-impeachment-youtube

CNN is congratulating itself profusely for its YouTube debate, and they showed a lot of excellent questions. But they refused to show the #1 video as voted on by visitors to CommunityCounts. The hands-down winning question was on impeachment.

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Posted: Fri Jul 27th, 2007 08:13 pm

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http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Romney_and_Giuliani_have_yet_to_0727.html

Four days after the Democrat's 'landmark' YouTube debate in South Carolina, only Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) have agreed to participate in CNN's next web-oriented debate.

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Posted: Sat Jul 28th, 2007 01:18 pm

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http://www.gravel2008.us/?q=node/1807

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Posted: Sun Jul 29th, 2007 12:52 pm

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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/28/cnn-debate-postponed/

It’s unclear whether the other candidates will actually participate in the rescheduled debate. Romney recently mocked the debate, stating, “I think the presidency ought to be held at a higher level than having to answer questions from a snowman,” referring to a citizen dressed as a snowman who submitted a question about global warming.

To debate or not to debate; that is the question.

Do you feel lucky - PUNK!

YouTube is 'democratizing' the political process. If you don't play - you lose.

So...do ya' feel lucky - punk?

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Posted: Mon Jul 30th, 2007 05:53 pm

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http://worldvisionportal.org/WVPforum/viewtopic.php?p=1618#1618

Who stood out from the pack? * 60357 responses

Sam Brownback 2.5%
Jim Gilmore 1.3%
Rudy Giuliani 17%
Mike Huckabee 3.7%
Duncan Hunter 1.9%
John McCain 7.8%
Ron Paul 38%
Mitt Romney 22%
Tom Tancredo 2.8%
Tommy Thompson 3.4%

Who showed the most leadership qualities? * 59573 responses

Sam Brownback 2.4%
Jim Gilmore 1.9%
Rudy Giuliani 17%
Mike Huckabee 3.7%
Duncan Hunter 2.1%
John McCain 12%
Ron Paul 33%
Mitt Romney 21%
Tom Tancredo 2.7%
Tommy Thompson 3.6%

Who was the most convincing candidate? * 59329 responses

Sam Brownback 2.9%
Jim Gilmore 1.8%
Rudy Giuliani 15%
Mike Huckabee 4.5%
Duncan Hunter 2.2%
John McCain 9.9%
Ron Paul 36%
Mitt Romney 21%
Tom Tancredo 3%
Tommy Thompson 3.8%

Who had the most rehearsed answers? * 58168 responses

Sam Brownback 4.3%
Jim Gilmore 1.7%
Rudy Giuliani 22%
Mike Huckabee 2.6%
Duncan Hunter 1.7%
John McCain 31%
Ron Paul 6.4%
Mitt Romney 24%
Tom Tancredo 2.3%
Tommy Thompson 4.2%

Who avoided the questions? * 56611 responses

Sam Brownback 6%
Jim Gilmore 3.2%
Rudy Giuliani 36%
Mike Huckabee 3.4%
Duncan Hunter 3.1%
John McCain 18%
Ron Paul 6.3%
Mitt Romney 13%
Tom Tancredo 4.2%
Tommy Thompson 5.8%

Who had the best one-liner? * 56527 responses

Sam Brownback 3.4%
Jim Gilmore 1.7%
Rudy Giuliani 14%
Mike Huckabee 7.4%
Duncan Hunter 2.4%
John McCain 14%
Ron Paul 31%
Mitt Romney 16%
Tom Tancredo 4.2%
Tommy Thompson 5.5%

To understand and see for yourself how the "Mainstream Media" controls information and publishes outright lies (dis-information), do a Google News search for "republican debate winner". If you can find any Mainstream Media article declaring the TRUTH that Dr. Ron Paul was (and still is) the clear winner in the California debate according to public polls, please feel free to send me a copy. I couldn't find even one as of this posting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18436681

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Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2007 10:56 am

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http://www.freedomworks.org/strawpoll/

Ron Paul is still winning.

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Posted: Sun Aug 5th, 2007 07:19 pm

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http://www.justin.tv/ronpaul

That may be a live link to the Iowa Debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9N6BW7SjIw

That may be a record of the Iowa Debate

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=ron+paul+speaks+truth+kooks&search=Search

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Posted: Tue Aug 7th, 2007 02:06 pm

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http://rpmuv.wordpress.com/2007/08/06/you-have-to-see-the-end-of-this-one/

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Liar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekNceS2zJtY

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http://www.nysun.com/article/61935

Mayor Giuliani , Fred Thompson , Mitt Romney , and Senator McCain are all declining to participate in a September 17 debate in Fort Lauderdale , Fla., that's being hosted by an umbrella social-conservative group called ValuesVoter.org. Social conservatives will be upset; other conservatives might well be heartened by the waning power of the religious right.

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http://www.fresnobee.com/649/story/130084.html

Alone among the contenders, Paul, a veteran Texas congressman with a libertarian streak, made the case for withdrawing troops. That drew a sharp challenge from Chris Wallace, one of the debate questioners, who asked whether the United States should take its marching orders from al-Qaida.
"No! We should take our marching orders from our Constitution," Paul shouted back, pointing his pen at Wallace for emphasis. "We should not go to war without a declaration" by Congress.
Occasionally interrupted by applause, Paul doggedly stuck to his point. "We have lost over 5,000 Americans over there in Afghanistan, in Iraq and plus the civilians killed," he said during his exchange with Huckabee.
"How long - what do we have to pay to save face? That's all we're doing, is saving face. It's time we came home," Paul said.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295883,00.html

Paul then responded: "The American people didn't go in. A few people advising this administration, a small number of people called the neoconservatives hijacked our foreign policy. They're responsible, not the American people."

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[size=2 _extended="true"]But Tancredo said sometimes talk is not enough. While he refused to condone any forms of torture, he said he drew a broad line on which actions qualify as torture.

[size=2 _extended="true"]"I would do — certainly, waterboard — I don't believe that that is, quote, 'torture.' I would do what is necessary to protect this country. That is the ultimate responsibility of the president of the United States. All of the other things that we do, all of the other things — all of the other powers vested in him pale in comparison to his responsibility to keep the people of this country safe. And that is ultimate. And, yes, I would go to great lengths to keep this country safe."

[size=2 _extended="true"]Paul added that the ongoing threat to national security has enabled the president to gain too many powers, and those powers are being used to grow a bigger and more inefficient bureaucracy that is spending excessively without results.

[size=2 _extended="true"]"Just going for increasing presidential powers, as has been discussed, is rather disturbing to me. This whole idea that we're supposed to sacrifice liberty for security, we're advised against that. Don't we remember that when you sacrifice liberty for security, you lose both? That's what's happening in this country today," Paul said.

Why is it so difficult to find video records of presidential debates?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Who+won+the+debate%3F

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Independent+on-line+presidential+debate+coverage

http://www.infowars.com/articles/media/corporate_media_censor_paul_debate_success.htm

Corporate Media Censor Ron Paul's Debate Success
Establishment press ignore massive popular approval for Texas Congressman in every poll, ABC only add Paul to poll list after furious complaints

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http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2007/09/03/daily17.html

McCain places fifth in Maryland straw poll -- Paul wins

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http://thinkrink.wordpress.com/2007/09/06/ron-paul-wins-2nd-fox-news-debate-despite-ridicule-opposition/

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Gandhi

It is obvious that, after seeing the Fox News Debates on Sept. 5th, 2007, the mainstream media and GOP see Ron Paul as enough of a threat to stop ignoring him, and to start ridiculing him. From using a split screen to show Giuliani smirking as Ron Paul answers his questions, to the background chuckles as he is asked questions, Ron Paul has apparently become the butt of an inside joke.

However, with a 33% win in the post-debate poll, it is Ron Paul who should be laughing. Of course, Sean Hannity could not resist making the ridiculous statement that the “Paulites” had spammed the poll. The argument, both false and illogical, is used to attempt to plant the seed in the minds of the American people that Ron can’t win, and conclude he is a “wasted” vote.

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