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 Posted: Fri Jul 5th, 2013 11:31 pm
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That is the name of the game, to gain at the expense of other people before other people can gain at your expense.

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That is the name of the game: to gain at the expense of other people before other people can gain at your expense.

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Might makes right (people driven by that mode of behavior) is a virus that consumes, like cancer, living beings. The entire human race operating on that basis of might making right will consume the entire human race rapidly, starting out slowly, but the pace of consumption, each person at each other's throat, quickens, and the end is a very rapid hell on earth with the last two people having a dire need to kill each other or die trying.

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Might makes right (people driven by that mode of behavior) is a virus that consumes, like cancer, living beings. The entire human race operating on that basis of might making right will consume the entire human race, rapidly. Though starting out slowly, the pace of consumption, each person at each other's throat, quickens, and the end is a very rapid hell on earth with the last two people having a dire need to kill each other or die trying.

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And then two people having similar goals, meet, and they then combined POWER to make less POWER into more POWER which is exponentially more POWERFUL due to division of labor, specialization, and economies of scale compared to one person alone and also compared to two people working separately.

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And then two people having similar goals meet, and they then combine POWER to make less POWER into more POWER which is exponentially more POWERFUL due to division of labor, specialization, and economies of scale compared to one person alone and also compared to two people working separately.

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One way makes power abundant and the other way destroys life on Earth.

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One way makes power abundant, and the other way destroys life on Earth.

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If there are no immoral people connected in any way to the group of people who are cooperative, what happens to TOTAL POWER and what is likely to be the difference between the least powerful person and the most powerful person as measured by the scale of Purchasing Power whereby the POWER of deceit is not a factor, and the POWER of threats of violence is not a factor, and the POWER of violence upon the innocent productive people is not factor?

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If there are no immoral people connected in any way to the group of people who are cooperative, what happens to TOTAL POWER? What is likely to be the difference between the least powerful person and the most powerful person as measured by the scale of Purchasing Power whereby the POWER of deceit is not a factor, and the POWER of threats of violence is not a factor, and the POWER of violence upon the innocent productive people is not factor?

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Person A is X percent more POWERFUL than Person B, without the factor of ill gotten, criminal, means?

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Person A is X percent more POWERFUL than Person B without the factor of ill gotten, criminal, means?


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"To me, this falls again into the category of two different worlds where you and I are targets because we produce more than we consume. On one hand, the "debt" based world is uncontroversial since there is a net sheet known as the Federal Tax "Liabilities" proving that fact. Our productive world, on the other hand, is driven by equitable thoughts and actions: The Golden Rule, morality, spirituality (whatever word works best in any case in this type of productive world)."

I approve of this message. :)

Why do I think that is so funny?

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Why do I think that is so funny?
Perhaps funny boy takes after you?  Anyways, it made me smile.  I am going to try to do a little work this afternoon.

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If you want we can go through the math in the link provided to help illustrate the point and make the point relevant to this:

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If you want, we can go through the math in the link provided to help illustrate the point and make the point relevant to this:

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Do people find winning lottery tickets in the garbage can?

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If you had millions of dollars handed to you from a lottery ticket you found in the garbage then you would be "lucky" and the grey area of how that much purchasing power became your interest, your concern, or came to be within your POWER to control, to invest, or spend, or save, or give away, would be illustrative of this point.

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If you had millions of dollars handed to you from a lottery ticket you found in the garbage, then you would be "lucky." The grey area of how that much purchasing power became your interest, your concern, or came to be within your POWER to control, to invest, spend, save, or give away, would be illustrative of this point.

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Had I gained control of many millions of units of purchasing power handed to me I'd build a house facing the sun, burmmed into the earth on three sides for insulation, Solar Panels, Windmills, two water wells, an electric fleet of cars to run as a taxi service, a large lot.

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Had I gained control of many millions of units of purchasing power handed to me, I'd build a house facing the sun, burmmed into the earth on three sides for insulation, Solar Panels, Windmills, two water wells, an electric fleet of cars to run as a taxi service, a large lot.

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 I have no use for gold or silver and if I am no longer of any value to anyone, then I guess I'll be dumpster diving.

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I have no use for gold or silver, and if I am no longer of any value to anyone, then I guess I'll be dumpster diving.

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What is the point at which a person has so much "money" that they then have to start working, spending time and energy, keeping their money safe from the criminals?

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What is the point at which a person has so much "money" that they then have to start working (spending time and energy) to keep their money safe from the criminals?

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Too many people have joined in the legal crime club, expecting to be handed something for nothing, and they have yet to find out the true cost of that decision, and when they finally get to judgment day, it will be too late to choose a moral path.

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Too many people have joined in the legal crime club, expecting to be handed something for nothing. They have yet to find out the true cost of that decision, and when they finally get to judgment day, it will be too late to choose a moral path.

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If you buy one in so many years you can buy two and then in so many years you can buy four, and then sixteen. It is very long term investments, like buying a house, or buying a farm, or buying a productive business.

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If you buy one solar panel in so many years, you can buy two, and then in so many years you can buy four, and then sixteen…It is a very long term investment…like buying a house, or buying a farm, or buying a productive business.

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It is like an education. You buy a book, with your time spent reading it carefully, like the Bible I suppose, (there are very valuable things in the Bible) to help make life much richer.

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It is like an education. You buy a book, and with your time spent reading it carefully, you hope to help make life much richer. (Like the Bible I suppose, there are very valuable things in the Bible.)

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The principle is based upon having less power today and having more power tomorrow. On a very small scale or a very large scale power gaining slowly over a long period of time, or power gaining faster over a shorter time.

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The principle is based upon having less power today and having more power tomorrow: on a very small scale or a very large scale, power gaining slowly over a long period of time or power gaining faster over a shorter time.

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"If all the Trillions of Dollars Spent on keeping the Monopoly Money Fraud Power maintained, destroying so much in that effort, was spent only on Solar Panels, nothing else, and sold at cost, or "given" away, instead of all that actual, measurable, destruction: there would be how much production measurable as electricity and whatever was made with electricity?

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"If all the Trillions of Dollars Spent on keeping the Monopoly Money Fraud Power maintained (destroying so much in that effort) was spent only on Solar Panels, nothing else, and sold at cost or "given" away -- instead of all that actual, measurable, destruction -- there would be how much production measurable as electricity and whatever was made with electricity?

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How much would electricity cost if every bomb, missile, military base overseas, solider, food, clothing, supplies shipped overseas, was turned back in time, all the way back to the decision to invade Pennsylvania by Washington in 1794, and instead of that investment in maintaining the Money Monopoly Fraud business, all that POWER was exclusively spent on making Solar Panels, how much would electricity cost per Kilowatt/Hour now?

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How much would electricity cost if every bomb, missile, military base overseas, solider, food, clothing, supplies shipped overseas, was turned back in time…all the way back to the decision to invade Pennsylvania by Washington in 1794…and instead of that investment in maintaining the Money Monopoly Fraud business, what if all that POWER was exclusively spent on making Solar Panels? ow much would electricity cost per Kilowatt/Hour now?

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