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| Posted: Wed Nov 22nd, 2017 09:44 am |
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Joe Kelley
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http://www.rightsofthepeople.com/freedom_documents/constitutional_convention_new_york_ratifying_convention.php While re-visiting the above information it occurred to me that the moral people (as in we - the moral, non-criminal people - are separate from the criminal, immoral, people, and that separation is created by the individual criminals acting alone (lone gunman) as well as the organized criminals who conspire to destroy a perishable liberty. On one side are common laws created through agreement and maintained through agreement among moral people. On the other side are organized criminals whose organizations often take a form that is intended to counterfeit the common laws of moral people who agree to live free in a perishable liberty. On one side are common law rules found and maintained by moral people agreeing to abide by common laws which are often based upon natural laws with as often references to spiritual laws. So my thinking moved to address the information found in the Debates in New York quoted now: __________________________________ Next day, the committee of regulations brought in their report, on which the following resolves were passed, viz.: — 1st. That, at the meeting of the Convention each day, the minutes of the preceding day shall in the first place be read, at which times, mistakes, if any, shall be corrected. 2d. That all motions and addresses be made to the chair, and standing. 3d. That every motion made and seconded, except motions for adjournment, shall be handed to the chair in writing and there read before any debate or question taken thereon. 4th. That, upon every question taken, the yeas and nays shall be entered, if requested by any two members. 5th. That, if two members rise to speak, and there shall be a dispute which of them rose first, it shall be determined by the president. 6th. That no interruption shall be suffered while a member is addressing the chair, but by a call to order by the president, or by a member through the president. 7th. That no member be referred to by name in any debate. 8th. That, if any member shall transgress the rules a second time, the president may refer to him by name; that the Convention may examine and censure the member's conduct, he being allowed to extenuate or justify. 9th. That any member, making a motion, may withdraw it before the question is put thereon; after which any other member may renew the same motion, if he thinks proper. 10th. That the appointment of all committees shall be by ballot. 11th. That none be admitted within the bar, excepting the members and secretaries. 12th. That the preceding rules shall be observed when the Convention resolves itself into a committee of the whole. ________________________________ A federal government (voluntary agreement to defend innocent people from guilty people) already existed under the common law in America before the criminal slave traders, central banking frauds, war mongers, and drug pushers began their efforts to steal, and counterfeit, that federal government in 1787, which included the effort to deceive the moral people in American, and lead by deception those moral people into a deal with the devil, to sell out their freedom in liberty for nebulous profits that would be taken from productive people by force, and by deception, where those profits are then placed into a National FUND, which is a FUND that is then accessed by privileged individuals, to then pay out to the "share holders" their portions of the stolen loot. So...the criminals must maintain a false flag, or façade, or Confidence Scheme, involving a play acting charade, where the criminals act as if they are proceeding according to lawful, agreeable, rules of order. Who wrote those rules of order, and which rules, exactly, are we speaking about, when we are speaking about rules of order? So the light bulb went off in my head. Has anyone heard of Robert's Rules of Order? How about Parliament Procedure? I looked and found: https://participedia.net/en/methods/roberts-rules-order ___________________________ The first edition of Robert’s Rule of Order appeared in 1876. The author Henry Martyn Robert (1837-1923) was Brigadier General in the U.S. Army whose original motivation for the title came in 1863 after being asked to preside over a church meeting in San Francisco. ___________________________ Before Robert's Rule Rule of Order there was Parliament Procedure. I think that the criminals in the British Parliament, you know the one's, the one's that ordered the criminal attack on the people in America, which was then the inspiration for the moral people in America to defend themselves from that criminal attack by the criminals RULING the English people. So...what rules of order do common people agree to when facing destruction and enslavement by criminals who counterfeit lawful government? I found the following: https://openscholarship.wustl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=4336&context=law_lawreview January 1937 From Common Law Rules to Rules of Court Laurance M. Hyde
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