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Joe Kelley

 

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My notes on the Monday Meeting (Internet based):



NOTES: National Liberty Alliance Aug, 16, 2013

Constitutions are not law if orders authorized by people employing the constitution are ordering unlawful actions.

Examples abound and Suppression of the Whiskey Rebellion is one of the first major examples. The Alien and Sedition Acts is the second.

The struggle is over the POWER to PUNISH.

From the onset it is EVIL, because CRIMINALS FORCE the issue.

A statement by John concerning the concept of being on a witch hunt, along the lines of the idea that we are not a witch hunt:
No, this is a witch hunt, but it is the witch hunters that are in office and they do burn people alive. This is a POWER STRUGGLE.

Know the opposition first.

They are now, each in turn, covering their own asses, and they are finding among themselves their own actual leader.

POWER means: who first will prove the POWER of this specific path?
1.       Indict for the first trial THE person who is given the notice to appear.
2.       Will that person be a clerk, a Sheriff, a Judge, a Union Lawyer?

Witch HUNT?

The Emperor has no clothes, and the POWER that maintains that facade (that legal fiction) is EVIL.

Which person, in human form, will be the first to prove the POWER of this path, if this path is viable?
Tell me.

Talking points while talking to witches; why spend a minute (or second) bogged down in speaking with people who are covering their own protection rackets, their own profitable ventures where crime is legal, when any time spent with those people delay the goal, and allow them more time to contact their real leaders, and then formulate a method of dealing with free people seeking defense against them.

John: We are going to hold their heat to the fire?
Same John says this is not a witch hunt?
Talk about Freudian Slips?

This is all about MEDIUMS OF EXHANGE or “money,” whereby the idea is to serve notice (not secretively) so the idea is to reach a point of order, and then serve public notice.

So…(in response to the claim that Common Law Juries are not subject to other authorities) who will be the first test case of a criminal (witch) put on trial?
1.       A Clerk
2.       A Judge
3.       A Sherriff

I asked:
Workshop item: which will be the first case of a new Jury Trial? 1. Clerk, 2. Sherriff, 3. Judge, 4. other, and how will that proceed in fact?
I asked that online.

Danger of relying upon a Union Judge is that Union Judges change their minds.
Going to the Clerk? If that is the obstacle, then go to the press, again, public notice.  Get readership. Inform, and this is all about open, public, (Not secret) proceedings, to inform, to discover the facts, to report the facts, to identify the criminals, to deal with the criminals with honor on our side (obviously not their side), with justice on our side, and with mercy on our side. You won’t proceed? That is fine, I will report your resistance to proceeding lawfully. I will proceed lawfully, if law does exist, it will be proceeded, acted upon, and if you want to be the first test case, then so be it.

Report to who? Is there a Jury or not? Report the actions that are obviously representing criminal activity to the other jurors. There is no Jury? There is no jury because of the resistance to forming a jury?
What?
Who is in charge?

Are there enough people right now to constitute a Jury? Then failure by people who are counterfeit, or fraudulent officers of the law, resisting the formation of a lawful Jury, is then CAUSE for ACTION to form the Jury without that specific “magic” seat in that “magic” building?

Convene a Jury (what are we doing right now) to deal with that SPECIFIC person, or that specific human being (people?)  who is obstructing justice in FACT.

No it is not a witch hunt, but do you really think that there won’t be witches imposing their lies, their threats, their violence on this path?

“We have to Hunt down…we have to give them an out...a final has to proceed with action.” Good stuff.

We can’t do this outside the court.

Preventing gaining access…need for 5 counties…power in numbers…another court house.

Which will be the first court house, and why not go to the press when resistance (witches) impede justice (impeded gaining access to those “keys”)?

Where is the precise POINT between the POWER of Liberty (justice in this case) and the POWER resisting that specific ACTION?

What will be the FIRST Jury, where, and then what is the first case? What is the POINT at which the actual ACTION meets the CAUSE of the action (the presumed to be innocent criminal asked to be tried by peers for crimes that have been perpetrated in FACT)?

PUBLIC NOTICE!

So many people claim that Majority Rule (Democracy) is the witch. IT IS THE FACT.
No, freedom is only difficult for the criminals (with or without badges), and that is another measure of that concept of democracy (not the counterfeit version which is Mob Rule).

George Mason, Patrick Henry, worked for The Bill of Rights.

How about a score board whereby there is a Map and a point on the map where there is a level of progress toward access to RULE OF LAW whereby Jurists work toward and then gain access one way or the other.

Monopoly of LIBERTY is the goal, Monopoly of Crime made legal is the enemy (witches)  and it is the witches that burn innocent people alive (that is what is at stake here, look into WACO) so…

Judiciary Act of 178

Rule of Law, or The Golden Rule, or God’s Law, or if you are not religious then Natural Law (Scientific fact) is reported by an Oath as the POWER in FORCE when I say I will tell the truth, and that is

Democratic Federated Republics are empowered for defense against larger aggressive (criminal) powers.

1200 AD Number of Grand Jurors established.