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 Posted: Fri Aug 23rd, 2013 12:24 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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Joe, I think that part of the way the Criminals use the Communist tool in a country is to corrupt the power centers so much that nothing works anymore for the people, and so the people get really dissatisfied and jump on the revolution band wagon and the country is then more easily conquered.
I am finding so much information that connects so many dots in the work done by Frank, where it is difficult for me to speak to you without having some reference to that information, but in this case I think I have one up on Frank too.

You are reading information that employs the word communist as if there is significance to that word, and even a group (list of names) who are communists, and to me that is a false or miss identification of the correct list of names, and a false or miss identification of the correct name used by those criminals.

All of those inventions invented by the communists to create this communism stuff is stuff used by legal criminals well before any criminal began hiding his (or her) crimes behind that communist label.

You are beginning to see the concept of a Monopoly of Legal Power controlled by a small, exclusive, number of members of that Monopoly of Legal Power.

Here is where the root of criminality can be followed back to the source of it, in any case, because the source of power is always criminal when these criminals gain their power by employing fraud, threats, and violence upon their innocent targets.

Here is where it is a good idea to step back and realize that it is not a Monopoly of  Power that is the problem, in fact a Monopoly of Power can be a very good thing, and the only reason why criminals get away with their crimes, is the reason that there is a good version of what they must counterfeit, so as to have a good looking false front to hide their crimes behind.

So there is a Monopoly of Power in true authority, whereby true authority is that which works effectively at preserving life, making life better in time, making life cost less in time, and extending the time span of life longer as a relative comparison to life being controlled by false authority (crime).

This is why I do not have any trouble seeing the wisdom of Scripture as it describes a single, and therefore a monopoly, of true authority.

I reserve my power to understand that ONE dictate by the true authority does not apply to every situation everywhere at once, so that understanding identifies the power of competition, as I mean the word competition to mean this very thing, whereby true authority is what is it, in any given situation, because it proves to be the best way to preserve life, make life better, cost less, and perpetuate, in any given situation, at any time.

To suggest that one person, one human being, has this power of true authority, this monopoly power of having the most competitive ways to do things, as Communists, Fascists, Republicans, Democrats, Federalists, Mormons, Catholics, Christians, or Bureaucrats, are apt to claim, is in my opinion confessions of the opposite, as they do not offer their competitive "advice," as would be the case in a voluntary association, they enforce their will, involuntarily, upon their targeted, and often innocent, victims.

The Union of "Private" Lawyers in any age, any place, on Earth while human beings have been here, are just copies of earlier organized crime cabals, using the same routine tactic of constructing a false front that covers up their real intentions, and their real actions.

Communists are sub-sets of people who are employed as lower level criminals following the orders (without question) of their employers who don't have this communist brand name on their "Private" stationary.

Why is someone who had communist connections the president of the United States?
If you fall back into the mind-set whereby there is this Federal Government Entity working to Serve and Protect, then you are falling deep into an abyss of falsehood.

Here is where I think am one up on Frank. I think that the words written by Frank suggest that Frank thinks that The Constitution of the United States was a expression of Liberty such as can be compared to The Declaration of Independence and The Bill of Rights, but no such thing is true.  The Constitution is opposite in instructing employers of the document as far as intent and actions concerning human action goes from moral thoughts and actions (voluntary associations) into immoral thoughts and actions which are merely crimes, and which are understandable in context with those immoral people who force their will (involuntary association) upon innocent people.

George Washington was the first so called President.

Here is a very good explanation of what George Washington was all about:

Generalissimo Washington

That is the typical "Strong Man" scenario. When the employer needs a hit man, a slave master, an "authority," they pick someone who can create what is now called "The cult of personality" and "Stalin" and "Hitler" are of the same constitution.

Washington went right to work as "President" with the suppression of Rebellion as Washington conscripted an army (involuntary association) while "President" to go on a crime spree, a war of aggression for profit, by invading the formerly sovereign State of Pennsylvania, to crush a money competitor PROCESS that was only just beginning to emerge as a viable, organized, effort, by many people, voluntarily, to produce, and maintain, a competitive form of home grown money, which was whiskey at that time.

Why is someone who had communist connections the president of the United States?
Why is someone who has Royal British Crown (Bank of London) connections the "president" of a Private Company (U.S.A. Inc. LLC)?

The answer is such that the private company is a false front for crime made legal and the victims are led to believe that this private company (which is a false front for crime made legal) is their POWER to command in defense against all enemies of Liberty, foreign and domestic.

It is a big lie, and it was a big like as far back as 1787, as told by many people who were FOR federal government constructions and who were called, oddly enough, Anti-Federalists.

Washington, Hamilton, and John Adams (Alien and Sedition Acts) were all "Federalists" (close ties with The Bank of England and the Royal British Crown).

Who gave the Rebels in America The Statue of Liberty, and why?

I ask because it was the French who were aiding the Rebels against the British.

I think there is some deeper meaning to that Statue of Liberty exchange.

The Criminal Socialists took over and Criminal Socialism does not work and when those Social programs can no longer sustain the people who depend on them those people become dissatisfied as well.
Criminal whatever works fine for criminals. Why is that hard to see?

The Private Corporation that currently stands in place of any POWER (at all) in defense against crimes perpetrated by large groups of organized criminals (claiming any kind of legitimate authority at all) is another organized criminal gang.

Private Corporation.

What do those words mean according to a person who exists in a world where power is increased because of the work done by that individual?

That term, those words, Private Corporation, means one thing to on set of people, and it means another thing, to another set of people.

Private Corporation, such as United States Incorporated, Limited Liability, is a false front for organized crime.

Which THING is run by a President, and how is that President empowered with any power at all?

1. A Private Corporation assembled for the purpose of producing items  of competitive quality for sale at competitive prices.

2. A Private Corporation assembled as a false front to hide the crimes perpetrated by the criminals upon the innocent victims (including child sex slavery).

What is not on that list is anything resembling an organized effort to defend against 1 man alone, let alone assembling an organized effort to defend against the largest powerful army of criminals ever assembled (involuntarily) by any organized group of torturous, and murderous, criminals.

If you are duped into a false belief that U.S.A. is an assembly of people organized in defense of Liberty, then you have not learned much from me in these years we have been discussing vital questions, seeking accurate answers.

Sometime during all of that they were rounding up women and children and lighting them on fire because those women and children were torturing the communist wounded soldiers with knives. I wonder why women and children would torture the wounded communist soldiers with knives?
If too many innocent people are led to believe that the way to defend Liberty is to torture and murder the torturing murderers, then what happens?

If Russia went through a tough 100 year span of time where the worst torturers and murderers where in charge of the so called government, then what type of person, and what type of group do you think will overpower that false government?

Another false government?

Why is that hard to see?

If there is now two opposing criminal forces ready to kill each other off, or die trying, then that scenario is what I call The Routine.

Is there, possibly, ONE group that sets all of that destructive POWER to be exactly what it is in due time?

If so, how could that ONE group be found?

How about following the ONE Legal Money Power to the source of it?

What will you find?

You, me, anyone, will find a POWER that can buy anything that can be purchased with Legal Money.

Anything.

Is that a substantial POWER?

Can a War be bought?

How can a war be bought?

Here, again, are three links that should be considered when asking these vital questions, seeking accurate answers:

Buying employees hired to make War real.

Money to spare to hire more employees.

Who actually pays the bills when the purchases are paid in full?


And now the US is over there killing people. Are "we" the communists now, or are "we" spreading democracy? Who are we killing over there?

Here is someone who was hired to kill people in recent "war" purchases:

Adam Kokesh

Here is another:

Pat Tillman

Note: The setting of those "testimonies" are inside of a Private Corporation which is a False Front for Organized Crime.

Frank has an interesting entomology on the word testimony.

I wonder how one can get hold of one of the exceptions so that the contract is equitable for both parties and no one is left feeling exposed.
I do not know if you can ever gain legal title in such a way as to then feel secure. I think it is more important to think in terms of reducing the cost of living, and along those lines there will always be criminals seeking to steal some of your power in some way.  How you balance the books is not how I balance the books, so I can't be of much help.

I can offer a link and a concept of making sure that whatever you do end up signing, as a contract, or whatever you want to call it, an agreement to pay an extortion fee, whatever you want to call it, the actual section of land described in great detail on the record, the paper, the official sounding, approved, stamped, measure of Earth, needs to be cleared as far as chain of title goes.

The term is Abstract Title, or finding each recorded transfer of title, so as to end up with Allodial Title.

Land Patents

I think that you may find some feeling of security if you listen to some of the information offered by that person, and then you can, possibly, find out specific things concerning a specific area of Earth that may be of interest to bear and the precious family in her world.

I don't think you can find any feeling of security if your world view is built upon a false appraisal of the current ROOT of false authority which is nothing more or less than organized crime, or the color of law, at the base of it, there in Washington D.C., which is a so called "Private" corporation.

Example:

If you get something that says you have this Allodial Title, according to The Federal Government, which overpowers the State Government, then as far as the current POWER structure works, you own that land, free and clear.

That can be worth something to you, to your family, for a long time.

That can work to reduce the amount of power you need to pay those payments demanded by those who end up demanding payments from you.

If so, if you find, and get, something similar to Allodial Title, and power flowing from you to anyone demanding power from you is reduced, then that sounds like a very good way to feel better in your lifetime.

If you are worried about possibly stepping on a mine (the contract is a mine field) then your fears may be overblown. Banks (so called) make sure that they get every advantage during the process of transferring title. We all work for the Banks, so called, so they (The so called banks) do as they please. Everyone is going through these mind fields, but many people are gaining some form of title, as they walk through the mine fields.

So you want a title. If you get one, then make sure you record a transfer of the title to your children, so as to avoid the process called "probate," if that is at all possible.

You won't get a perfect, honorable, voluntary, agreement, or equitable transfer, when dealing with the false bank, and the false government that is hired and working for the false bank, but you can minimize the injury, meaning that you can reduce the mines in the field between you, where you are now, and that goal of gaining a recorded title of ownership.

I don't know the details in the paper work precisely.

I can't help as a Union Lawyer or a Non-Union Lawyer, and that is why I am now reading the work done by Frank, because he looks to me like the most accurate source of information concerning which POWER is on top at this time, and which POWER will be on top (might makes right or the opposite POWER) in the near, and far, future.

A deal made with criminals is only as good as long as the criminals stay in power.

But your part of the deal, maintained accurately, honestly, honorably, will always be recognized as such by fellow Friends IN Liberty.

So...to me the link showing how Title of Land works according to the supposed Federal Government, going back since it began 200 odd years ago, is a good way to begin finding some sense of security in knowing how that works now, from how it worked along the way up to now, in this place where this land exists.

If land title is causing you stress now, then listening to that link above sounds like it may be much better than listening to information concerning the nebulous communists.

Here is the link again:

IF THERE IS ONE LIE KNOWN -- IS NOT ALL ELSE SUSPECT?

No wonder we sided with them in WWII.
There you go again. If the links offered above, on Wall Street buying FDR, buying Hitler, and Buying Stalin, are of no value to you, because the information is false, or meaningless, to you, then I can understand why you fall back into this "we sided with them" concept.

So be it.

I find the information offered by Anthony Sutton to fit very well into my understanding of how Legal Crime works as a Legal Money Monopoly Power.

I may be wrong, of course.

We were them and didn't even know it.
I do not torture.

I do not mass murder.

I do not torture and mass murder for fun and profit.

I am not part of "we," and no amount of POWER (to purchase) me into that group will do so, so please stop using the word "we" in that context with me.

And we have been on the divide and conquer road ever since.
Not me. Please stop. I have been on the Liberty road all my life, measured by my efforts to end the day with more productive power compared to what was available at the start of the day, and having been less than what I would have wanted to be, having made many errors, but none-the-less being on the Liberty road all my life.

I cannot be bought, moved, enlisted, or joined into that "we" you speak of, it won't happen, it can't happen, it is not in me.

If I am wrong, if I can be bought, if I some day join them, then may God have mercy upon my soul, because I will have sold it at that point.

Yes, I can be wrong, but I do not profit, and have fun, torturing, and mass murdering, and those in that group of "we" do.

I am not in that group, so please stop placing me in that group with your use of the word we.

We think it is because both sides of the war is funded? Maybe it is because both sides of the war is fought by the same people and makes for easier conquest.
You are not in that group either, no way, no how, so your infection, if that is what is happening still, remains to be an injury done to you, and done by those who are in that group who love to destroy.

I hope that you can see past that nonsense, some day, clearly, and I am warning you again, once all that nonsense is left behind, there will be much trouble in your soul, if you are anything like I was, when I finally shed those very destructive lies.

I do think the moment occurred after seeing another pile of soon to be tortured and murdered innocent people were loaded onto a truck, and I wept at my daughter's bedside, literally crying my eyes out, sobbing.

You are not part of it, you are not in that group, in that sense, this sense, you are innocent, and no, please no, do not place yourself within that false world, get out of it, and do not be afraid, it won't be easy, but get the hell out of it.

I mean, specifically, in reference to the so called connection between the innocent victims and "our" president of "our" Private Corporation, it is all lies, it has been all lies since they, they, they, not us, made slavery legal with The Constitution in 1788.

They are evil, you are not, in that context, precisely that context, you are innocent of such things, and your guilt is measurable in measurable ways and it is not FUN and PROFIT earned by torture and mass murder.

That is what causes the sobbing, the weakness, the powerlessness, to finally realize the full measure of the connection, for what it is, no longer any doubt.

Then what happens?

I think there is then a ground zero, and you may have already passed it, probably so, and I am just not understanding you by your words currently.

From that ground zero there is much less in the way of abject fear, and much more in the way of reasonable defensive POWER.

It is not easy, and if you have not gone through something similar to what I have gone through, then my warning still stands.

I think this is one of the things Joe would have to think about. My head is starting to hurt trying to sort it all out.
At least you have your safe place, a place to recharge, to find courage, which has to be very powerful.