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My fault in my words has to do with me not having (as I said in the past) a "pony in the show" in the who has the most accurate understanding of God contest.
I am now asking question of Frank that put my interests in a place where I may form a more accurate belief of religion compared to my past and present belief in religion.
So my fault has to do with my communications with you being what they were, on the subject of competitive viewpoints in religion, and my viewpoints that may become something other than what they were, or are, and so I see a potential for being untrue to my past words in this regard.
I think that your viewpoint of Frank's viewpoint is not accurate.
I don't need to go into details, but I can if asked.
I can see error in reaching out to a self proclaimed Divine Creator in human flesh (as I think that I what I understood Frank to call himself in reference to the follow up to your discussion with him in the first link) for spiritual guidance.
The actual words by Frank can be quoted for references. I think that the idea Frank offers has to do with every aware human being not just Frank. The idea, if I understand it, is that we are all trusted with life and therefore we are all trusted with the power to create, and therefore we are all in that connection divine creators creating by way of that power trusted into our care.
At least that is where I am at so far in the reading on Trusts and Estates, and here is where I find much of my interest in Frank's work concerning how bad things are now, and how things got this bad by way of the actions of people he calls nihilists.
Trusts and Estates are part of the Real Estate Business, so called, so that brings the information into regular home usage, and so I can now develop my own basis of language, based upon principles concerning the exchange of Real Estate.
Estates, it turns out, are principally a secondary to, or a creation from, Trusts.
Estates appear to be the beginning of Legal Crime in the exchange of land use among the human beings.
That may be more detail than appropriate in this specific forum topic, but we two are able to communicate without rigorous reliance upon protocol, so I trust that you will forgive my elaboration here.
The Old Testament Contract was in initiated by God. The New Testament Fulfillment was initiated by God. On the Cross, Jesus said, "It is Finished." He is the Fulfillment of the Contract.
I wanted to keep you posted on my dealings with Frank, since you are connected to me, and since I value your trust, and since I want to earn your trust, so I try to be up front in this area of religious belief. I may go places in my perceptions of religion as the contact with Frank may change my direction somewhat, so your navigation skills may also be beneficial to me. I don't know these things, but I am not too afraid to look to see what some other people may believe. One thing Frank does question about people who are Christians is a possible contradiction concerning what is believed or what is not believed in The Bible; concerning contradictions that may appear when Christ says this, and it means this, and then somewhere else in The Bible someone else says that, and it means that, and the two things are contradictory, and does the True Christian put more weight into what Christ says and not as much weight in the viewpoint that contradicts what Christ says?
Those are my words not Frank's, and what I find very important is the fact that I can speak to Frank, and ask my own questions. I can't ask Christ questions. I can't ask Josiah Warren questions. I can't ask Alex Jones questions. I can't even ask Ron Paul questions, I tried, seriously tried, without success, or with limited success.
I can ask you questions, and you generously offer answers. That is an indirect way of asking Christ questions, but you then point me to The Bible, and you tell me that is where you get your answers. But your answers are yours, not The Bible, you translate, generously, to me, without deceit. How valuable is that, and so I may be asking, some day, questions directed at Frank, concerning what he thinks Jesus said about this or that, and in particular I may go into the places where I have a contention with what is written in the Bible.
Original sin is a concept that I find to be very contentious for example.
I find the concept of someone being tortured and murdered for my sins to be a contentious idea, for another example, and we have spoken about that, but I have not put my "pony in that show" at this point, or I may not care to resolve things such as those things, having no real interest in doing so, while, or especially while, there are so many other questions I have concerning the work on Political Economy done by Frank up to this point.
Matt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo , here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold , I have told you before . 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold , he is in the desert; go not forth : behold , he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .
Those words apply very well to Alexander Hamilton and Ben Bernanke. To me those words do not apply to Frank. Frank may be acting from false belief, but to me it is obvious that Frank is not inventing falsehoods.
Your measure of Frank appears to be such that you think Frank is dishonest.
I see the opposite, and if Frank is dishonest then it can be demonstrated that Frank is dishonest, without having to rely upon belief. A dishonest person will produce lies, whereby the lies can be proven as lies, and that is routine to a point that is reasonably evident, or self-evident, in the form of inculpatory evidence.
A fabricator of lies cannot admit mistake without having their lies which cover up their false authority over their victims exposed, and that is the point being pointed out by Frank concerning the false authorities that have taken over the power of government in our current world.
If Frank is misled by information that he believes to be true then he is no different than any other man or woman walking the earth, and that is according to your belief as far as I understand it. Frank is no different in principle, perhaps different in degree, but who judges any case with any authority?
"There is one mediator between God and man and that is Jesus Christ."
Frank, as far as I can tell, has dealt with contentions in Christian religion far more than I ever want to, and again he appears to find use in the concept of asking people questions concerning their belief in The Bible and the idea that there are contentions concerning what is written in The Bible between what Christ says and what other people say. I think that Frank identifies true Christians, as he understands the concept, to be those who put more weight in the words of Christ when there is a contention, and I think Frank puts less weight (of trust?) in people who side with words that contend with what Christ says.
I can be wrong.
I don't know.
"I must clean house tomorrow and will leave bookwork til I have free time again."
Thanks for taking the time to answer my current confession, which may not appear to be one, as your viewpoint remains to be very valuable to me.