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 Posted: Tue Jun 18th, 2013 02:06 am
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 I think I've brought this example already, but repetition never hurts.

Rene Descartes. Famous mathematician and also philosopher, most known in that last field for revolutionary (at the time) conception: "I think - therefore I exist".

And that stood as the cornerstone of philosophy for quite a while actually. Before it was easily logically brought down by showing a simple and yet brilliant confusion of cause with effect.

Martin Heidegger managed that. "I think because I exist".

Simple, yet brilliant.

Perception is always secondary to existense if existense takes place. Existense is the cause of perception, not the other way around. Yet perception doesn't account for everything. There is no duality perception/not-perception as there is with matter/space. Perception and existense of perception will always be secondary to the existense of matter. Even if perception doesn't exist - it says nothing about matter. Yet if matter doesn't exist - there can be no talk of perception. They are directly connected by perception existense being nothing more than a direct logical consequence of matter existense.