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 Posted: Thu Apr 11th, 2013 02:28 am
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Truth is ! Whatever truth is, it must be singular. I am 53 years old and I began my quest for truth at the age of 19. I have been as earnest and honest in my search for truth as I am humanly capable of being. I believe there are only two requirements one needs in order to find it: earnestness and honesty. And, of course, but this should be obvious, to never quit seeking.

It's good to hear this. These words - 'never quit seeking' - in this particular context can be repharsed into different but telling shapes. The goal of self-development, trying to become more than one's are or if you prefer - to realize one's hidden potential. I think that this is consistent with sarch for truth. Don't you agree?

Information is a message about events happening around and inside us received through the organs of sense.

Knowledge is a reflection and understanding of events happening around and inside us.

So in gathering knowledge one edges closer to the truth. And if he doesn't need to formulate excessivve amount of new axioms as he goes along, if he doesn't contradict his earlier axioms - he's probably on the right path towards the truth.

And how do I rate my own description of The Truth ? It's full of holes. Furthermore, I fear greatly anyone who claims to understand A Truth that isn't. (full of holes, that is). Interestingly enough, the descriptions of truth that I personally find the most revealing are the contradictory ones such as can be found in zen or in quantum physics.

I want to comment about quantum physics. The problem of comprehension that science came acroos when they stepped into quantum physics is that microcosmos is the level where actual natural laws are at work themselves. Humanity's earlier perception is one from mid-world, between macrocosmos and microcosmos. And this mid-world there are only consequences - manifestation of said laws. Science didn't consider this when forming it's postulates. So when it came the time to look at the laws at work in microcosmos - things stopped make sense for mainstream science. All these mind-boggling theories attributed specifically for quantum mechanics are simple misunderstandings born from lack of vision. First they assume that what we see is what is. Then they assume that what our equipment can pick up - is what is. then they assume that what they can neither see not detect with equipment, but 'should be there because otherwise nothing makes sense' is exactly the way they think about it. How many times we've heard this conjuration at work? Things like 'higgs bozon' and 'dark matter' turned out to be so elusive (btw recent reports about finding bozon is just a media trick, manipulation). It never occurs to them that as long as they hold on to the failed paradigm - they are never gonna explain things without contradicting themselves. But it's not a secret why humanity has so little in terms of actual science.

I cannot agree to disagree either. I think people with two different versions of truth, (or two societies for that matter ) can co-exist peacefully if they were simply to allow that whenever two perceptions of truth exist neither must be right so we must continue in our earnestness and honesty to explore together.

Yes, that seems to be about right. Honor. Conscience. Knowledge. I'd like to add these 3 virtues-conceptions to honesty. They are the closest terms (albeit quite not exact) in Egnlish that I could find which decribe requirements of self-development for me.