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I am familiar with the Thesis- Antithesis- synthesis concept. Marx used it in The Communist Manifesto and as far as I know he is the first to refer to it in class struggles of societies. I studied these and other works (some now forgotten, but I will find them again) some 25 years ago. I remember only bits. What is keeping me busy right now is re- reading and researching information I once knew well. I do remember that the difficulty encountered by the concept of antithesis- thesis - synthesis is that it is forever repeating. Marx, for example felt that once the proletariat gained control and a socialist form of economics was established then the synthesis formed would be sustaining and fair for everyone. Of course, we all know how that turned out --- Stalin Regime!
I wrote a poem about cyclic thesis-antithesis, a good one I believe, called Chaos.
I love Orwell and you could call me a socialist democrat and not offend me. I even once wrote an imitative Orwellian essay about killing jackrabbits in the desert around the same time period as the nervous breakdown. It feels good to be able to revisit these ideas and not be angered or frustrated anymore. My how I have grown.
Most of the stuff you say you can show me is already in this forum and or others where you enter into discussions with other persons. Like for example :
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2741992
I am keeping an eye on you now, Josf. I got your back, as they say. And I like playing detective and following you and your ideas around. I give you credit.. you are prolific.
One thing I think you don't realize is that I was in your shoes years ago when I returned to college at the age of 25. I wanted to learn how to stop what I saw happening. I think I already mentioned once about being in a bar fight when we bombed Libya in 1986 by the Republicans then icon, Ronald Reagan. By "your shoes", I specifically mean angry.
How can you people be so fucking blind!!!! I screamed it all the time. No one listened and I was fucked up. I actually had a nervous breakdown. Allison can tell of the time I tried to call her the day after the bar fight when I was crying so hard I had to call three or four times before i could get an actual word out of my mouth instead of sobs.
Then some things happened, and since I was also pursuing a spiritual philosophy and practice i eventually lost the anger and the ego. I feel I can now help to do what I wanted to back in 1986. Also you are now involved. I sure wish I knew back then about that Lusitania book you read and how you felt about it.
Anyway, I have some alternative, not necessarily repudiating, ideas, but ones that differ slightly from yours. I wrote a bunch down one night about 1 in the morning I should just type it out and fuck taking the time to revise it.
I worry for you Joe, because I have already learned that we can wind up with the wrong accomplices. Persons who twist our freeing ideas with their ego and use them to begin a new cycle of change that only ends up repeating.
I am not sure yet, and perhaps never will be as to what is the right solution to this whole debacle but I am now joined in your struggle. Or should I say, you are now joined in mine. Doesn't matter. It's good either way. We will agree on some things and differ on others but our earlier discussion has convinced me that your intent is pure love, kindness, honesty and compassion.
I am not so sure about Jack's intent. That boy worries me. (LOL as they say)
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