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 Posted: Mon Jul 16th, 2007 08:32 pm
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Joe Kelley

 

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In order for any good or service to become cheaper and more widely available, one of two things must occur: 1) the production of the good or service must increase, or 2) the demand for the good or service must decrease. The second of these alternatives is very unlikely to occur in the healthcare industries in the United States over the next couple of decades, simply because the giant Baby Boomer generation is entering the stage of life when the demand for healthcare services tends to be highest.

 

The above is false. Either the person spreading the falsehood is ignorant or fraudulent.

Any method whereby the cost of health care is reduced is, by definition, going to reduce the cost of health care.

"Become cheaper" is an asinine non sequitur argument; falsehood.


How much wealth is currently being spent to reward insurance company investors for investing in insurace company profits?

How much?

If that amount can be known, accurately, then that cost can be known and that cost increases the cost of health care.

Reductions in that cost will reduce the cost of health care.

This is one of many areas in human activity where the 'capitalist' solution redistributes wealth from the many to the few by fraud and force.

It appears to be a 'solution' to remove the State from the equation and let the free market reign supreme. That is the falsehood spread by State Capitalists who run Limited Liability Corporations. That is a dire fraud infecting society. Without the State acting as 'protectors' there would be no 'limited liabilities' and a corporation would be no different than a co-operative.

Something would replace the State system when the State is removed. Who removes the State?

Is the State going to leave voluntarily?

What is needed is a re-examination of the term Government.

People govern themselves. This is a fact.

People also govern other people. That is another fact.

People fail to govern themselves, at times, and their lack of self-government imposes a governing effect on other people.

When the failure to govern the self is legitimized, then, government becomes the STATE.

That is clearly the case when viewing government as an involuntary association where the innocent must obey or the innocent will be punished for their failure to obey.

A clear example of this involuntary association crime is involuntary taxation.

Pay or suffer punishment - no exceptions - nothing personal.

That criminal viewpoint is more accurately called: "Extortion".

Here is where the concept of 'insurance' can help identify government from a voluntary viewpoint.

A voluntary tax can be seen as an insurance premium. Pay or don't pay at your own cost. This can be very clearly understood from the Health Care perspective.

Any health care professional of any kind can treat any person at any time.

Example:

A person in a car accident is found at the scene by the health care professional.

Does the health care professional check to see if the person has insurance before applying direct pressure to a blood gushing wound?

The answer must be: it depends upon the individual's self-governing ability and the ability of other people as other people govern the individual.

Most, I dare say, will do the right thing at the right time.


Soon it will become clear as to the ability of the person injured to transfer some form of wealth into the insurance FUND from which the health care professionals draw their pay.

Clearly the accident victim cannot be expected to pay for the construction of the ambulance, the training of the EMT, the hourly wage of the driver, the planning, building, and maintenance of the hospital, the bed, the electricity, and all the wealth consumed during his treatment.

The victim may be in no position to create anything more than debt from that moment of the accident until the victim’s demise.

Someone must produce the wealth required to pay the costs of medical care and insurance is one method of accounting for the transfers of wealth from those who can afford to pay to those who administer health care.

People who create wealth pay. People who administer heatlh care are paid.

How much do the peole who create wealth pay to insurance?

That is the pertinent question.

If less people can pay, then, there is less wealth that can be paid to medical professionals.

If there is no insurance at all, then, each individual will pay or not pay as they are able; each person will recieve health care or not receive health care.